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  1. #31
    Player
    StubHub's Avatar
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    Stub Envy
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    Balmung
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    Weaver Lv 34
    In order to get people to even want to job swap in a dungeon they would have to create a need to do so. Which would require them to create a need to do so. Which would leave certain jobs behind.

    While SE obviously isn't perfect at avoiding this as it is, this goes even more so against the balance they've wanted from the start. It was/is a neat thought but the reality is that implementation is too hard if not impossible to pull off with the balance they want for each job.
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  2. #32
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    ChaozK's Avatar
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    Baal Mirtaq
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    Shiva
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by TheRogueX View Post
    I've put probably 770 hours into the game in the past year. That's been enough for me to level 1 job to 50 as well as 1 DoH to 50. All other classes are where you see them. I did level a second character to 50 BRD, but the rest of its classes are really low level otherwise.
    770 hours is more than enough time to get the majority of jobs to 50. You just didnt bother it seems (which is completely ok).
    OPs idea is still terribad though.
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  3. #33
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    Dyvid's Avatar
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    Maelstrom
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    Dyvid Pandemonium
    World
    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Blacksmith Lv 90
    I can see it now in Party Finder:
    XXX Run: Must have WHM, PLD, BRD, and BLM leveled, no exception! Will check and kick!!!
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  4. #34
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    TheRogueX's Avatar
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    Character
    Arias Lightbearer
    World
    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by ChaozK View Post
    770 hours is more than enough time to get the majority of jobs to 50. You just didnt bother it seems (which is completely ok).
    Clearly it's not, or I would have been able to do it. It's not like I just log in to the game and sit around doing nothing for hours. I guess it's just that I didn't rush through everything like most people do.

    I know people who have put in twice as much time and don't have all jobs to 50.

    I think most people just aren't aware of how much time they have spent playing this game and severely underestimate it when talking about it.
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  5. #35
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    Millerna's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Millerna Astor
    World
    Phoenix
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    I'm legacy, but still only have 3 jobs at 50.. Too busy helping others run dungeons to level more jobs
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  6. #36
    Player
    ChaozK's Avatar
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    Baal Mirtaq
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    Shiva
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by TheRogueX View Post
    Clearly it's not, or I would have been able to do it. It's not like I just log in to the game and sit around doing nothing for hours. I guess it's just that I didn't rush through everything like most people do.

    I know people who have put in twice as much time and don't have all jobs to 50.

    I think most people just aren't aware of how much time they have spent playing this game and severely underestimate it when talking about it.
    Do you seriously think it takes like 100 hours to get a job to 50? No it doesnt. With hunting logs you take a job from 1-20 in like 2 hours of play and then you do dungeons and challenge logs. It hardly takes more than 20 or 30 hours.
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  7. #37
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    Sapphic's Avatar
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    Character
    Sapphic Meow
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Dyvid View Post
    I can see it now in Party Finder:
    XXX Run: Must have WHM, PLD, BRD, and BLM leveled, and all at ilvl 100+ no exception! Will check and kick!!!
    Fixed it for you XD.
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  8. #38
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    Felis's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Skadi Felis
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Andres_Lonegrief View Post
    how did these dungeons work? I joined only after 2.0 so I'm pretty ignorant, but it would be nice seeing something more "consistent" since lately even the newest dungeons are too easy and become soon boring.

    People still wipe at Aurum or Stone Vigil, but everybody can clear Hullbreaker without the slightest ounce of effort.
    You did 90% of the dungeons as a BLM for AoE attack and ranged attack, then before the party entered to the final boss room switch to MNK for focused single attack.

    If you didn't had lv 50 PLD, WAR, BLM+MNK, WHM or BRD, have fun to find a party.
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    Last edited by Felis; 09-09-2014 at 10:08 PM.

  9. #39
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    Lord_Zlatan's Avatar
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    Zlatan Tarrant
    World
    Famfrit
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Sapphic View Post
    Fixed it for you XD.
    both so true.

    I think the simple solution to this is not allowing total job swaps but just let us pull cross class skills from more classes. Some classes available cross class skills are woeful. If your going to let PLD pull from WHM, at least let cure work... put Piety/MND on PLD gear and not just lump it in with warrior gear... I digress, but I think I made my point
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  10. #40
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    Taisai Jin
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    Twintania
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 64
    Quote Originally Posted by TheRogueX View Post
    I think most people just aren't aware of how much time they have spent playing this game and severely underestimate it when talking about it.
    I think it's actually a matter of what people log on and do, rather than how much time they put in. If you don't level other Jobs, it doesn't matter how many hours you play a day, they wont level because you're not leveling them. The game has more than enough content for people to have not bothered leveling every Job.
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