Request- Some form of carbuncle for Summoner.

[Wobble]

Ima unequip my summoner stone & queue up the duty finder. "Carbuncle... go!"

A guy in our raid group did this and we went in ST and he still did great DPS.

[NorthernLadMSP]

I would love to have the Carbuncles back. I miss them.

[kidvideo]

A guy in our raid group did this and we went in ST and he still did great DPS.

How is this possible? He was without Fester, Spur & Enkindle, not to mention Contagion.

[Dwill]

How is this possible? He was without Fester, Spur & Enkindle, not to mention Contagion.

Technically, Carbuncle has Contagion but it's called Shining Emerald. It has the exact same effect as Contagion. Arcanist also have Rouse. The rest you were correct. And to answer your question, he didn't do great DPS. Losing 10 of your primary stats, your biggest damaging nuke, a 40% damage boost to your pet + Enkindle will make your DPS horrendous.

[Giantbane]

Technically, Carbuncle has Contagion but it's called Shining Emerald. It has the exact same effect as Contagion. Arcanist also have Rouse. The rest you were correct. And to answer your question, he didn't do great DPS. Losing 10% of your primary stats, your biggest damaging nuke, a 40% damage boost to your pet + Enkindle will make your DPS horrendous.

You lose exactly 10 of each stat by taking off your job crystal. Not 10%.

You can make up for it to some degree by using other cross class abilities like Blood for Blood, Internal Release or (I think) Aero. I mean you're still going to be doing less DPS as the ACN, but it's not all loss.

It feels like carby was the only summon they put effort into, all others look so bad.

^This

[Dwill]

You lose exactly 10 of each stat by taking off your job crystal. Not 10%.

You can make up for it to some degree by using other cross class abilities like Blood for Blood, Internal Release or (I think) Aero. I mean you're still going to be doing less DPS as the ACN, but it's not all loss.

I dunno why I typed % but good catch, I edited it. Blood for Blood if used on CD is a 2,5% damage increase over the duration of an encounter and Internal Release if used on CD is a 2,5% crit increase over the duration of the encounter and Aero is 170 potency DoT every 18 seconds. All of these do not even remotely make up for the loss of Fester(which is about ~17% of your damage output) let alone the rest of what you lose.

[ispano]

You lose exactly 10 of each stat by taking off your job crystal. Not 10%.

No, Job crystals give you 10 in all stats, except your primary. You get 20 from that.

[Tupsi]

How is this possible? He was without Fester, Spur & Enkindle, not to mention Contagion.

Considering from a design standpoint Carbuncle = Egi, they share the same abilities and stats for the most part, heck even greater at 50 actually, the problem though egis are more "specialized" when they replace Carby. So when geared, you can still do good DPS, since your Pet doesn't do great damage as is as the majority of your DPS comes from your DoTs and Fester anyway.

So basically, any egis we get, there's a Carbuncle used as the baseline, so its possible for SMN to get Carbuncles, but very unlikely since Carbuncle is an actual summon/familiar and not a egi.

[Dwill]

Considering from a design standpoint Carbuncle = Egi, they share the same abilities and stats for the most part, heck even greater at 50 actually.

Garuda technically has better stats than Carbuncle because summons snapshot your stats at the time of their summoning and the Summoner Soul Crystal gives you more intelligence therefore Garuda's intelligence becomes technically higher. Also, Garuda's spell are all of a higher potency as well so even if the Soul Crystal would give you no bonus, she'd still be better than Carbuncle.

So when geared, you can still do good DPS, since your Pet doesn't do great damage as is as the majority of your DPS comes from your DoTs and Fester anyway.

Summons do 25-30% of your total damage output, that's pretty great damage if you ask me.