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  1. #31
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    Delsus's Avatar
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    Delsus Highwind
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    Odin
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    Red Mage Lv 86
    Quote Originally Posted by Boilon View Post
    Is there a GM post or a forum thread somewhere stating this specifically, this is what I want to do know, where is the ToS of the forums located then?
    Forum Guidelines http://support.eu.square-enix.com/ru...la=2&tag=forum

    Posting aimed to create a negative impact on the community or its members.

    And the fun last point Taking any other actions that are deemed inappropriate by Square Enix in our sole discretion.

    Basically naming and shaming is creating a negative impact on that player (with or without actual evidence) and if SE decides it's inappropriate that can and will take action.
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  2. #32
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    Double Toker
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    Hyperion
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    its not a bot, its someone trying to mine in peace, without being harrassed about being a bot. You can set yourself AFK and move an do stuff all you want. Target yourself > SUbcommand > Edit Search Info > Set to AFK > Try to do something. Its to prevent recieving tells. The only way you can tell if someone is a bot, is if you witness them teleporting from node to node or mob to mob.
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  3. #33
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    La La'
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    Moogle
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Delsus View Post
    People have been banned for naming and shaming, I think SE sees it as harassment which is against the ToS of the forums.
    What an IRONY! Innocent honest players getting insta (forum) bans for naming and shaming obvoius bots rampaging for MONTHS without any action taken against them ... tss tss

    Anyway - I see those running around Moogle for weeks now, have reported about 7 or 8 of them - aparently all belonging to the same person based on the names and gear - about hundred times plus some of my friends did so as well without any reaction. This is very bad considering the huge negative impact on market hose have ... I was actually thinking of organizing a protest march on most affected servers, record the video and spread the world around the net to get the public's (and hopefully also SE's) attention to this burning issue.

    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleT View Post
    its not a bot, its someone trying to mine in peace, without being harrassed about being a bot. You can set yourself AFK and move an do stuff all you want. Target yourself > SUbcommand > Edit Search Info > Set to AFK > Try to do something. Its to prevent recieving tells. The only way you can tell if someone is a bot, is if you witness them teleporting from node to node or mob to mob.
    NO. You've apparently havent read a single word of this thread ... it's NOT possible to have AFK status and run around nor will AFK status protect you from receiving tells or any other communication from other players. You're most likely confusing this with Busy status but that's irelevant here because even without "impossible" AFK status those are still obvous bots, the AFK status just makes it easier to spot. We're not morrons, we can recognize the bot when we see one. On my server those are running 24/7 for a month now usually in group of 2 or 3 at the same time / place, exactly same character with the same format of the names, gears etc. They move in exactly the same patterns all the time, you can spot the bot after one minute of watching them. Apart of that, low level gear with no melds and no other classes leveled are dead giveaways.
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    Last edited by HEC-; 09-09-2014 at 09:55 PM.

  4. #34
    Player SantaClaw's Avatar
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    L' Ash
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    Masamune
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleT View Post
    Target yourself > SUbcommand > Edit Search Info > Set to AFK > Try to do something.
    Did you ever try this yourself?

    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleT View Post
    The only way you can tell if someone is a bot, is if you witness them teleporting from node to node or mob to mob.
    We called them bots and HACKER. A bots doesn't necessary teleport around.
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  5. #35
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleT View Post
    its not a bot, its someone trying to mine in peace, without being harrassed about being a bot. You can set yourself AFK and move an do stuff all you want. Target yourself > SUbcommand > Edit Search Info > Set to AFK > Try to do something. Its to prevent recieving tells. The only way you can tell if someone is a bot, is if you witness them teleporting from node to node or mob to mob.
    Your wrong, firstly I had someone test this and I watched their character of which as soon as they moved the afk status turned off even though they set it manually. Secondly afk status does not prevent /tells at all as I have had /tells while afk in cities and villages/towns. Once again seems your confusing status types like another person did before.

    Thirdly this whole excuse of people setting their status to x, y or z to prevent tells while gathering is such a load of nonsense in my opinion since it makes zero difference if receive tells or someone speaks to you while gathering as no-one is forcing you to respond plus as someone who grinds away gathering for many hours on end I have never had any random person /tell me...no-one ever in my experience goes around doing /tells on gatherers at random for no reason unless they are exhibiting the behaviors of bots such as the afk while moving or constantly getting stuck running into the same rocks multiple times etc for extended periods of time so the whole blocking /tells is the most pointless thing to do ever. It seems for the most part just an excuse mostly botters use in my opinion.
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    Last edited by Snugglebutt; 09-10-2014 at 12:22 AM.

  6. #36
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    Lyseaa Redwyne
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    Midgardsormr
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    Goldsmith Lv 50
    Yep, totally a bot. I can go several spots I know any time of day and see the same handful of bots doing the same thing.
    I stopped reporting them, NOTHING get's done as long as they keep paying those subscriptions
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  7. #37
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    Sora Burakku
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    Zalera
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    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Ravno View Post
    You normaly can't move with the afk logo, so, yeah it's a bot. 100% sure.
    You can set your status to AFK and it will stay on all the time... This is a big problem. Who is a bot and who is mindlessly harvesting the same nodes over and over again trying to level up or harvest a particular mat?
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  8. #38
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    Ampersand Kai
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    Gilgamesh
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by MageBlack View Post
    You can set your status to AFK and it will stay on all the time...
    No matter how many times this gets posted in this thread, it remains untrue. Any activity removes the AFK flag as of patch <mumblesomethingmumble>.
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    10 posts per page is only the default setting; it is bad, and you should feel bad if you haven't changed it.
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  9. #39
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    Lyseaa Redwyne
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    Midgardsormr
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    Goldsmith Lv 50
    AFK and Busy are two different things.....

    Chair and moving = bot
    red frowny face = person set to busy to be left alone, or bot

    Bots have very predictable actions and movement patterns.
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  10. #40
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    Infernia Heart
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    Famfrit
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    Conjurer Lv 87
    Quote Originally Posted by MageBlack View Post
    You can set your status to AFK and it will stay on all the time... This is a big problem. Who is a bot and who is mindlessly harvesting the same nodes over and over again trying to level up or harvest a particular mat?
    Either you're one of those users trying to defend bots (as anyone else is keeps denying this) or you have serious trouble reading, you CANNOT move with the afk logo, as it will go away with ANY action. It is a 100% bot.

    This is proof SE does not do anything with bots because they will still be there days later even tho it is plastered in their face that a bot is clearly preset.
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