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  1. #21
    Player Adler's Avatar
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    Adler Lett
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    Odin
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    Lancer Lv 50
    About SE doing nothing to fight with RMT is not true - they actually ban quite a lot characters. It just happen very slow like months before the action is taken.
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    Player Yahavage's Avatar
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    Yahavage Silvanesti
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    Sargatanas
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Funnily enough I saw the same thing happening in Southern Thanalan, but the person/bot was fate farming. I tested myself manually setting my status to afk, moved, status dropped. So unless there's something else you need to change to prevent that from happening, but as far as I'm aware there's not. I didn't bother reporting for two reasons, one I wasn't 100% sure you couldn't disable the feature and two: it feels like a total waste of time reporting these. I mentioned in another thread the group of botters on Sargy who've been doing the same thing for at least 4 months, probably longer.
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  3. #23
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    Shneibel Panipahr
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    Quote Originally Posted by ToffeeCoffee View Post
    Don't waste your time, no action will be taken.
    I belive the last no action will be take, ban 1k+ acc involve with RMT
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alukah View Post
    I can't test it myself atm but unless they fixed it, you are wrong. There was a big thread not so long ago where people complained about the afk status being removed even if it was set manually or if auto afk was off, devs replied that they wouldn't change it.

    (Again can't test it, so I'd appreciate a quick check)
    You are correct, I had someone test it as I watched their status by the name and soon as they moved even though set it to afk mode manually it still turned off the moment they moved. No matter how many times people try to make up excuses and pretend that running around with afk status is normal, the reality is it is not and it is not possible unless possibly using third party software aka botting. As I mentioned earlier I had people test before I reported the botters.
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    Amberion Eurelt
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Sounds strange though, since bots sends the keystrokes to the game. So essentially, it should do exactly as your keyboard/gamepad or whatever does.

    Someone would need to test with a macro program to see if it cancels afk mode. Otherwise it's hard to say that afk mode means anything.
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  6. #26
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    Doc Ravenbe
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    Siren
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amberion View Post
    Sounds strange though, since bots sends the keystrokes to the game. So essentially, it should do exactly as your keyboard/gamepad or whatever does.

    Someone would need to test with a macro program to see if it cancels afk mode. Otherwise it's hard to say that afk mode means anything.
    Not if you set up an elaborate macro script.
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    Okay then. that's what I'll do. I'll tell you a story. Can you hear them? All these people who lived in terror of you and your judgement. All these people who's ancestors devoted themselves to you, sacrificed themselves to you. Can you hear them singing?

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    Delsus Highwind
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    Odin
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    Red Mage Lv 86
    Quote Originally Posted by ToffeeCoffee View Post
    I understand the need to investigate, and I understand that once banned they will likely create new bots but nothing gets solved by allowing it to happen. If anything it encourages the practice even more.
    It doesn't take a brain surgeon to identify a bot and SE have access to more game activity data than we will ever see. They shouldn't need more than a few minutes to identify a bot and ban it. I can see 5 of them on my screen right now.
    You obviously don't understand, SE has server side information to go on only, if they are for example gathering in SB gear, the nodes pop at certain places, items also have different values, so you can see someone going along the same route gathering to make a little money and make the materia at the same time, two birds with one stone. Now if I log on at the same time as you and do this every day ( because I love gathering loads), by your logic I am a bot and should be banned. The same goes for farming materials from mobs for crafting, might as well SB whilst fighting these trash mobs, so by your logic again I would be a bot.

    SE cannot just ban for seeing people fighting the same mobs, gathering the same items or using SB gear, now if they were there 24/7 then yes they could look into it, but you personally cannot prove that unless you stay there watching them 24/7.

    A good bot will ensure that only normal commands are sent to the server, as if they were using a keyboard, therefore it makes it much harder to ban.
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  8. #28
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    Boilon Malphite
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    Gilgamesh
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    Alchemist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Chiramu View Post
    Can't tell from one screenshot. You have to monitor them for a long time, you also should blank out the names. No naming and shaming on the forums.
    can you link me where it says this is not allowed? People say this but I haven't been able to find a source where I am not allowed to post someone's name - and in these cases bots.
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  9. #29
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    Delsus Highwind
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boilon View Post
    can you link me where it says this is not allowed? People say this but I haven't been able to find a source where I am not allowed to post someone's name - and in these cases bots.
    People have been banned for naming and shaming, I think SE sees it as harassment which is against the ToS of the forums.
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    Boilon Malphite
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    Quote Originally Posted by Delsus View Post
    People have been banned for naming and shaming, I think SE sees it as harassment which is against the ToS of the forums.
    Is there a GM post or a forum thread somewhere stating this specifically, this is what I want to do know, where is the ToS of the forums located then?
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