Instance withdrawing strikes.

[Tupsi]

I doubt that same person could withdraw for 3 or more times within 10 minutes but if someone truly is THAT much retarded then could just set the same 30 min penalty as for leaving already started dungeon.

You'll be surprised. There definitely does need to be SOME penalty though because why even withdraw in the first place?

[meJojo]

Mind you I sat 30mins in the queue and had people withdraw roughly once every minute.

That's 23 people who had to wait 30 minutes.

How is a 24-hour lockout for a single piece of trash too excessive of a penalty, exactly?

[Wylde]

What if I withdrew the first time because I had to run afk. Then the second time because my internet DC me. And then I spilt my drink on my keyboard. 24 hours is just dumb. Make a pf. OP's idea is terrible. Why not just a 5 minute lockout ?

[WinterSolstice]

How is a 24-hour lockout for a single piece of trash too excessive of a penalty, exactly?

Because you have to consider circumstances. The world isn't black and white, there is a lot of gray that has to be accommodated. Having a totalitarian mindset like that is never good.

I'm sorry that you feel slighted, but shit happens. I'm absolutely sure that you had to wait in your queue for so long due to princess tanks wanted to be spoon-fed the easiest chance of getting their weekly oil, but you can't set up a system with the express purpose of banning the shit out of them for a day without affecting others.

[meJojo]

Because you have to consider circumstances. The world isn't black and white, there is a lot of gray that has to be accommodated. Having a totalitarian mindset like that is never good.

I'm sorry that you feel slighted, but shit happens. I'm absolutely sure that you had to wait in your queue for so long due to princess tanks wanted to be spoon-fed the easiest chance of getting their weekly oil, but you can't set up a system with the express purpose of banning the shit out of them for a day without affecting others.

Which others? No one other than progress fishers have any reason to withdraw 3 times in 10 minutes.

[Kayo]

That being said, a 24-hour lockout from everything on DF is laughable and makes it seem like you're just speaking out of anger, not with your head. I hope you aren't actually serious.

At most, I think a 2 hour lockout from that specific dungeon would be sufficient.

Nah, if youre withdrawing from dungeons that much you deserve a lockout, a nice long lockout at that to make you think twice about doing it. Specially if its done 3 times within 10 minutes. By then youre obviously just being a selfish a-hole screwing others over to suit your own ends and giving nothing in return. IMO it shouldnt even be just within 10 minutes, only tanks or healers would ever even reach that timer. For dropping queue I say 5 hours.

Add a penalty for dropping a dungeon too. Dropping from a dungeon more than 3-5 consecutive times without finishing at least one should result in a lock out. In cases like those id even go as far as give them more than 24 hours. Or maybe start at 24 hours for the first offense then increase it after that.

[Tupsi]

Because you have to consider circumstances. The world isn't black and white, there is a lot of gray that has to be accommodated. Having a totalitarian mindset like that is never good.

It's not black and why but be honest - How likely is it people SPAMMING withdraw are doing so because they need to afk or got disconnected? Be honest.

[CrystalRainbow]

There should be a 1 min lock out everytime you hit withdraw.

If you aren't ready to hit the queue, You shouldn't be queueing up.

Also this is coming from someone that was doing this to try and hit the queue with my wife and it worked about 40% of the time. But now we don't do anything but High and expert which we can queue together. and trials, which we still hit the same one about 10% of the time.

[DracotheDragon]

i agree with the 30 mins and it should be 3 times within 5 mins (thats counting full times of 45 seconds including the requeing) 10 mins sounds like a wide window,

the 30 mins duty finder is the standard thing and that gives people with a busy real life time to deal with some things (if they accidentally get it but due to it being aimed more at queue POP and waiting then immediate dequeuing
that way those who purposely time it out and dequeue will get punished

[AdamFyi]

I don't see why they just don't let us join the instance and let the party build up inside the sealed circle

This would cause heavy server stress. Imagine every single withdraw creating new instances every time.

Anyway, the best way I can see them implement a penalty is that if you manually press withdraw, you get a one minute penalty that increases by one minute every time you do it up to a maximum of 15 minutes. Maybe this can also apply if you don't press anything and let the timer run out. It's not like a person who isn't intentionally trolling (like being afk for a bit to answer the phone or etc.) would get penalized by this since at most, they'll get a one to three minute penalty. The penalty counter could possibly be reset once you finish any duty.