Please add clearance condition to Group Finder

[TomTom1968]

U guys are funny. So it is OK for everybody to lie and disregard/disrespect any requirements you make in Group Finder? Because nobody should be locked out? And people who aim to search for a group with similiar experience (at least having killed or having killed several times) shouldn't be allowed to do so because they are mean Elitists leaving the poor other players behind?

LMAO...get a grip. Seriously, get a grip. Nobody of you, I bet, is that much of a good-dooer as some claim here to be. I see how rude people are in Group Finder, I see how quickly ragequitters leave parties and I also see how people behave in Trials Roulette where they all of the time expect to get a one shot no matter how many new players are in the fight - but suddenly when it is about Group Finder and setting specific requirements when you aim to look for players in a similiar boat, we are all a big Family where nobody should be left behind?

You know that there are generally 3 kind of groups up in Group Finder? General training, specific phase training and Kill parties. In almost 100% of all Kill parties they are asking for proof already now. Loot or Lodestone link so it is already happening but I do not like this kind of stalking people and would prefer an automatism. It really isn't more what I am asking for and not far from what is already a given.

There are parties for everything you can imagine. And if not, why not start your own? My answer to that: because many people are lazy and can't be arsed to wait. They want things NOW, no matter who pays the costs for it. In my book, it is not OK and fair Game to join a group that wants to for example train on Phase 3 of a fight while you are really struggling with Phase 1 still and the group never even makes it to the phase they want to train.

Same for people asking for a previous kill. Of course having defeated a content once is no safe sign that somebody can do it. He might have been dead all time, paid for it and what not else. But you clearly see a difference between players with kill experience and players who struggle in the last phase. And yes, there are the quick learners who just need a good group once but as far as my experiences go, they are a tiny small minority.

The ones who claim to have a right to lie in order not to be left behind are surely accepting training people running around like headless chicken in times where they want to farm a boss or Turn quickly? Yeeees, sure everybody in this Game has lots of Patience and endless time on their hands. I see it in the Wildlife of Group Finder that Reality is much different.

The only thing I see here is the desire to generally join any party whatever the group search requirements are. Of course it is no option to make your own party and wait hours like others do, no just jump into any content and any party because it so nicely quick and hey, if the others are experienced, you might get a nice carry if they down it before they kick you.

[JustPlainLucas]

*starts PF, checks kill experience only. guy who paid for a coil win steps in, does something stupid, wipes team" XD

[JustPlainLucas]

On a serious note, if you haven't cleared something, you shouldn't go into a party asking for kill experience, because it's not fair for them. Don't make the game about you. Your inexperience might be wasting other people's time. There is, you know, such a thing as a learning party. If you're looking for Coil via PF, try looking for one of those, or start your own.

[Dhex]

*starts PF, checks kill experience only. guy who paid for a coil win steps in, does something stupid, wipes team" XD

>>Creates PF "Will kick anyone that dies!"
>>Dies first.
>>Blames lag.

edit: Kutcher comes out from behind the boss, "You've been punk'd!"

[JustPlainLucas]

>>Creates PF "Will kick anyone that dies!"
>>Dies first.
>>Blames lag.

*joins that party, leader keeps dying, I get kicked when I Need on gear I can use* Oh joy...

[Amelia_Pond_Behemoth]

I have not cleared T5, and the only Ex I've killed was Levi, so I've still got a lot of clears ahead of me. But you know what? I agree with OP. I've scoured those PF's for learning groups and have seen farm group for the same content I'm trying to learn. I don't join those because you know why? I haven't learned the mechanics and I respect the party's conditions.

Respect is a two way street. Respect the elitists by not joining groups where you don't meet the conditions. Elitists, respect newbs by being friendly in groups where they do meet the conditions.

[Alukah]

Don't get me wrong, I'm not encouraging people to lie, but this is a player issue created by this exclusion itself, we don't need a system feature to encourage more this exclusion, we need ways to solve it, until then parties are free to deal with it in any way they find convenient.

[ispano]

Don't get me wrong, I'm not encouraging people to lie, but this is a player issue created by this exclusion itself, we don't need a system feature to encourage more this exclusion, we need ways to solve it, until then parties are free to deal with it in any way they find convenient.

Oh the solution is simple yet not simple all at the same time. Poor players are why people put the rules in in the first place, with a secondary set putting it in, but being said poor player(ie the one looking for a carry). Fix is get better.

[Ashkendor]

*joins that party, leader keeps dying, I get kicked when I Need on gear I can use* Oh joy...

Honestly, if you join a Greed party and roll Need on things, I'd kick you for not abiding by the party rules.

It seems like nobody reads the party description. I don't write it for my health here, people.

[Dashuto]

*starts PF, checks kill experience only. guy who paid for a coil win steps in, does something stupid, wipes team" XD

Its funny because its so true it hurts.