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    Wishangel's Avatar
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    I think it's cruel that you are unwilling to teach new players the ropes ever, but would rather have fast clears every week. This is just my two cents, but I guess you're entitled to your apparent selfishness.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wishangel View Post
    I think it's cruel that you are unwilling to teach new players the ropes ever, but would rather have fast clears every week. This is just my two cents, but I guess you're entitled to your apparent selfishness.
    Nobody has said this, so please take these baseless accusations elsewhere.

    Quote Originally Posted by NyarukoW View Post
    If you ever had cats, you will know cats don't beg
    Nearly lost my drink @ this: go open a can near a cat, doesn't even have to be tuna, just one that sounds like a tuna can. There's a reason you can get an app for your phone that will make a can opening sound to get your cat to come out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alistaire View Post
    Nobody has said this, so please take these baseless accusations elsewhere.
    Just search this thread. The "clearance condition" is the "no newbies wanted" checkbox. That is not an accusation, that statement is a correct summary of what has been written.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NyarukoW View Post
    Just search this thread. The "clearance condition" is the "no newbies wanted" checkbox. That is not an accusation, that statement is a correct summary of what has been written.
    I've spent enough time in this thread to see over and over several people want the option of having parties for clears or for farm. The accusation is that people wanting this "never" help new people, and that's not true.

    Edit: I will say I'd much, much, much rather help a new player who made their own PF than a new player that tried to sneak into a farm group. (but then of course, that's too much common sense now, isn't it?)
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    Last edited by Alistaire; 10-07-2014 at 07:42 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alistaire View Post
    I've spent enough time in this thread to see over and over several people want the option of having parties for clears or for farm. ...
    And do this at the expense of newer players. Whether you want to help the newer players is not in debate here, everyone has that option. The issue is whether the system will allow new players to get help. By implementing a "no newbies wanted" check box, you will deny newer players even a sliver of a chance to get help. Right now the PF host at least need to talk to them on the PF before starting the instance and make a judgement call. Why is that so bad that you'd want a "no newbies wanted" check box? Leave well enough alone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alistaire View Post
    .. There's a reason you can get an app for your phone that will make a can opening sound to get your cat to come out.
    It works the first few times, then they ignore you. And that is people baiting cats, and the cats are not begging. It is just like putting up a farm PF, it will attract all the players you didn't want.

    Obviously you are too foolish to understand cats. Nice cat pictures by the way, but you forgot to photoshop your character into the pictures. You misintepret their actions as begging, when they are actually demanding you to feed them. And they will never beg you clean the litter box, they will just leave the crap in places you couldn't imagine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NyarukoW View Post
    Obviously you are too foolish to understand cats. Nice cat pictures by the way, but you forgot to photoshop your character into the pictures. You misintepret their actions as begging, when they are actually demanding you to feed them. And they will never beg you clean the litter box, they will just leave the crap in places you couldn't imagine.
    It's understandable to not want to accept reality when it disagrees with you entirely. That denial however doesn't make you correct either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wishangel View Post
    I think it's cruel that you are unwilling to teach new players the ropes ever, but would rather have fast clears every week. This is just my two cents, but I guess you're entitled to your apparent selfishness.
    I may not always feed every stray I come across. I may not always hand loose change to everyone that waves a cup at me. I may not always watch a relative's pet when they go out of town. But sometimes I do.

    I can look out for everyone else in the game, but I have to look out for myself too. Is that selfish? I guess you could say that, but by the same token, anyone that would ask for my help (or even worse, demand it) is also selfish.
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    Last edited by Mutemutt; 10-07-2014 at 08:55 AM.

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    Ashkendor Zahirr
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wishangel View Post
    I think it's cruel that you are unwilling to teach new players the ropes ever, but would rather have fast clears every week. This is just my two cents, but I guess you're entitled to your apparent selfishness.
    This is a completely baseless accusation by someone that clearly hasn't read the majority of the thread.

    Many of us have said that we either join or run learning parties regularly.

    However, when I have a party up specifically to farm I expect that those that join already know the content.
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