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  1. #1
    Player
    Avatar de NyarukoW
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    Ai Hana
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    Faerie
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    Archer Lv 60
    Citation Envoyé par Gucci_Charms Voir le message
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    A clearance condition would be a pre-made filter for veteran players to avoid having to deal with nuisances ...
    Dealing with other players is not nuisance, it is all part and parcel of the game. Even dealing with friends might be nuisance to you. If you wanted a single player game, you are in the wrong place.

    You do not need a "clearance condition" so you can wishfully think that those that join are all somehow more skilled or experienced. You will get people that bought the clears and wipe you, or people that got clears but are now in there with you to spirit bond, or trolls from clear sellers and RMT sellers just to mess you up (so people that want to farm must all go from farm sellers.)

    If you don't put in the time to recruit your farm static, what make you think that you are entitled to have the system find you one?
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    Player Avatar de Yoninxi
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    juin 2014
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    Ul'Durst
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    Kaiser Yonin
    World
    Siren
    Main Class
    Arcaniste Lv 60
    Citation Envoyé par NyarukoW Voir le message
    wat
    Until you have dealt with inexperienced people joining and ruining an otherwise good party, you have no credibility to talk. You keep throwing out all of these hypothetical situations of , what if, or ,what if that, when you haven't completed any Endgame fights. You advocate so strongly against a clearance condition because you're probably the one who joined a farm party and didn't like the cruel and evil vets treated you.
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  3. #3
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    Avatar de Ashkendor
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    mars 2014
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    Ashkendor Zahirr
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 90
    Citation Envoyé par NyarukoW Voir le message
    Dealing with other players is not nuisance, it is all part and parcel of the game. Even dealing with friends might be nuisance to you. If you wanted a single player game, you are in the wrong place.
    We're talking about wanting to play with other vets and you're carrying on about single player games? This makes no sense whatsoever. In any case, dealing with players that lie to you about knowing the content is a nuisance that something as simple as another checkbox added to party finder could alleviate.

    Citation Envoyé par NyarukoW Voir le message
    If you don't put in the time to recruit your farm static, what make you think that you are entitled to have the system find you one?
    Why do you keep going on about farm statics? Seriously, the only statics I see are for SCoB.

    Why are you so stuck on this idea that the only time people can farm is in a static? ._.

    I seriously can't figure out if you are a really good troll or a really inexperienced player.
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    Dernière modification de Ashkendor, 04/10/2014 à 06h52

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    Player
    Avatar de NyarukoW
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    Ai Hana
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    Faerie
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    Archer Lv 60
    Citation Envoyé par Ashkendor Voir le message
    Why do you keep going on about farm statics? Seriously, the only statics I see are for SCoB.
    You can try to farm using the PF, but you are the mercy of others who also want to farm. Beggars can't be choosers. And obviously that makes people unhappy, so form a static to farm stuff, it works and its efficient. I got people in my FC that farms ponies and mirrors and such and they are always the same group that does it. And someone in the FC need to clear it, they bring them along to clear it. This makes things work.

    And new players are not a nuisance. People think they know stuff after they watched video right? So if they think they can farm why not let them try? If they wipe the party you can remove them, and then put it up back on the PF. I've always advocated that people say they are new. You can see this in any of my posts. You want to slander the newbies and accuse them of lying, when they did no such thing, and beside they can't that 1st-time myth bonus will show up. The clearance condition won't help you with people claim to have skill and experience but does not because they bought their clears. So you rather give them a chance, because they paid RMT and bought a clear?
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    Dernière modification de NyarukoW, 04/10/2014 à 07h09

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    Player
    Avatar de Gucci_Charms
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    Miley Cyrus
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    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Maître d'hast Lv 50
    Citation Envoyé par NyarukoW Voir le message
    Make the farm party out of the static you recruited. That is the best way. You DO NOT have right to have the party finder doing it for you. You are lucky when that party does fill. And people that don't have clear have just as much right wanting to farm the stuff as you do.
    One word:

    LOL.

    Citation Envoyé par NyarukoW Voir le message
    You can try to farm using the PF, but you are the mercy of others who also want to farm. Beggars can't be choosers. And obviously that makes people unhappy, so form a static to farm stuff, it works and its efficient. I got people in my FC that farms ponies and mirrors and such and they are always the same group that does it. And someone in the FC need to clear it, they bring them along to clear it.
    Why don't they bring you? Actually nevermind, I can understand why LOL.
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  6. #6
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    Avatar de Ashkendor
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    mars 2014
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    Character
    Ashkendor Zahirr
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 90
    Citation Envoyé par NyarukoW Voir le message
    You can try to farm using the PF, but you are the mercy of others who also want to farm. Beggars can't be choosers.
    Putting a party up in PF does not make me a beggar, and it certainly does not mean I can't choose who joins.

    I mean, people on my blacklist can't join my party. That's exclusionary too so I guess we should get rid of it?

    And new players are not a nuisance. People think they know stuff after they watched video right? So if they think they can farm why not let them try? If they wipe the party you can remove them, and then put it up back on the PF. I've always advocated that people say they are new. You can see this in any of my posts. You want to slander the newbies and accuse them of lying, when they did no such thing, and beside they can't that 1st-time myth bonus will show up. The clearance condition won't help you with people claim to have skill and experience but does not because they bought their clears. So you rather give them a chance, because they paid RMT and bought a clear?
    Any players that lie about having a previous clear or lie about knowing the content are a nuisance whether they are new or not. The fact is, the odds are better that someone with a previous clear will know the content as compared to someone without a previous clear. I've never once said that there aren't people out there with no clear that don't know the content, (I'm actually in that boat with Titan EX right now myself, have been to under 10% several times but not yet cleared it) but that's a special situation that you should talk to the party lead about.

    As an aside, RMT is not the only way to afford to merc a clear. Seriously, they're like 500-700k on my server.
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  7. #7
    Player
    Avatar de Alistaire
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    septembre 2013
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    Character
    Your Character
    World
    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Mage bleu Lv 60
    Citation Envoyé par Ashkendor Voir le message
    I seriously can't figure out if you are a really good troll or a really inexperienced player.
    Mediocre troll at best; the mark of a good troll is putting less effort into their posts than the people replying. If their posts aren't what they actually believe, it'd take some work to put together points as ridiculous as this. The best trolls don't even reply after they've started a riot.
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