I actually know someone who snuck into a Levi Ex "farm" or experienced PF group the first week it was out but she's a good player and they one-shot it so the group (in the end) didn't mind.

Obviously, if she sucked and didn't perform well I believe that it would have ended differently.

To the idea that there are just some players who -do- know the fight but just need a group to do well at it... /tell the PF leader. PF lead is the one to make the call, as they should be. When that person is the one causing wipes, the leader took a risk and failed. Kick and look for replacements. If they do just fine, they got that clear and went about their business in continuing to farm as they -are- in fact a farmer.

Many weeks now, I've pretty much got T6 on farm. I'd like to only wipe 2-3 times (if at all) before the clear because I would rather get into oiling T7 down. It's easier to do that when you know for a fact that they've at least seen the fight 100%