Please add clearance condition to Group Finder

[TomTom1968]

That's where I beg to differ. When I join a Daily Roulette, I am up for anything. People on their 1st attempt, people not really knowing what they do. I know it may take longer and live with it. When I do Low Level Roulette as Tank, a dungeon can take up to one hour if you have team mates who want to see the whole dungeon and kill all enemies for EXP. That's all OK because it is the nature of the Roulette and I am open to help people if I see they struggle and take the time needed without giving up early like some do. I also help FC mates or join training parties to help if I have time.

But how on Earth am I supposed to search for players when I aim for a quick kill? Last week where I was without my static clearly showed me that you can put up anything in Group Finder as description and still people join who need lots of training or just hope for a win because the rest of the group is experienced instead of having killed it and already knowing what to do for it like asked for in the description. Not sure if I really ask for too much with it or if it is already seen as "Elitist attitude" lol. There are times where I like to pick specific players for specific goals. And downing something I have on Farm mode is something I want to do fast. It is an option I would choose for maybe 5% of the groups I search for, a vast minority so to say. And of course, you should only be able to check it if you have cleared it on your own as well so it is basically setting a requirement you meet on your own.

[Shougun]

That's where I beg to differ. When I join a Daily Roulette, I am up for anything. People on their 1st attempt, people not really knowing what they do. I know it may take longer and live with it. When I do Low Level Roulette as Tank, a dungeon can take up to one hour if you have team mates who want to see the whole dungeon and kill all enemies for EXP. That's all OK because it is the nature of the Roulette and I am open to help people if I see they struggle and take the time needed without giving up early like some do. I also help FC mates or join training parties to help if I have time.

But how on Earth am I supposed to search for players when I aim for a quick kill? Last week where I was without my static clearly showed me that you can put up anything in Group Finder as description and still people join who need lots of training or just hope for a win because the rest of the group is experienced instead of having killed it and already knowing what to do for it like asked for in the description. Not sure if I really ask for too much with it or if it is already seen as "Elitist attitude" lol. There are times where I like to pick specific players for specific goals. And downing something I have on Farm mode is something I want to do fast. It is an option I would choose for maybe 5% of the groups I search for, a vast minority so to say. And of course, you should only be able to check it if you have cleared it on your own as well so it is basically setting a requirement you meet on your own.

The consequence I see from this is PF will become the "elitist finder", have you done content on DF first or a part of a gracious FC? No? Well then don't use PF because everyone is going to have "no noobs" checked, because.. why not? lol

I'm all for removing negative stress where possible, or allowing it as a form of decision tool.. currently I see the stress as the tool to decide if you really care if there is one noob. So, if that stress is removed all I ask is to add a new stress (like missing out on an awesome opportunity to get a big pay out for helping someone).

And again just to be clear since I know I'm going against you and have used prejudice (is loaded with history baggage.. >.>), I don't mean to say you are evil - I understand you want less stress but not to hurt anyone. I just believe it will end up hurting the community in the long run, at least without any sort of new counter balance to make that "stress" still there but in a different form.

Except those people WON'T change to the type that wants to help new people. Even people who don't mind helping grow tired of helping every single person they come across. But when we just want to not deal with them, we have no way to filter them out except to just not do the content we want done for the most part. People say the content is what forces people into statics. I say it's the playerbase.

Coil lockouts definitely help force players into statics, I would disagree that it is solely the player-base (if that was what you were getting at). The point of adding extra bounty wasn't to say everyone would choose to help out now, it would just be used to keep similar ratio of willing to help and not. Rather than easy mode button that just lets people do it without consequence. If you make something easier you should expect it happens more often, because those who already did it will be sure to do it at greater efficiency and those who didn't because it was just a pia will do it too. If the system works as desired "PF = Win Groups" then ticking the option off will become unlikely and PF becomes "Elitist Finder". Already be one of us or don't join, no learning to be one of us except for the lucky in FC or lol gl with DF.

[Yukariko]

You can have a previous clear check button if they also add a you can't quit button.
specifically for learning parties as I'm sick of running in those only for some elitist ass wipe who thinks it's a clear farm group to rage quit after 2-3 wipes.

back on topic
A previous clear button would be nice if only to remove the "show your loot/proof" mentality, I've cleared mog ex quite a few times, even farmed it but have had no luck with loot.

[Tsuwu]

Nah.

/10char

[Aylis]

Not sure if I really ask for too much with it or if it is already seen as "Elitist attitude".

I would say no, its perfectly okay to want to build a party based on the players needs and desires, there's absolutely nothing really "elitist" about doing so. I guess the only difference is the players that act like jerks with their messages that I would label them as such personally.

Anyway I don't raid or use party finder for much of anything but I support your idea, players should be free to form parties and play how they want to play. I'm not a coder but I'm not certain how a check box could work to block a person from just simply joining a party. Maybe it could work upon entering the instance and those without the flag are removed?

Ideally I would rather have SE come up with better bridged content instead of funneling everyone into raiding and praying everyone gets along and works together 100% of the time. I feel a stronger mid tier would be of a better benefit to the players that want to enjoy end tier with others in peace instead of a check box alone.

[Moomba33]

I don't see the harm in adding this to be honest.
Groups that don't want to help people clear will kick when they see the new party member message pop up at the beginning of a duty anyways.

I also feel it's dishonest to join a farm group when you don't have clear exp.
I know it's hard to find groups to practice with sometimes (I have yet to clear t5+, Mog Ex, or Ramuh Ex myself) but other players aren't obligated to teach you.

If you have gotten close you can always message the party leader to see if they're willing to take you with your exp but it's their choice.
More incentives to help new players would be a welcome addition to the game though.