Please add clearance condition to Group Finder

[AdamFyi]

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Yes, it doesn't help much because they can set up their own PFs as well, but people are not stupid. They can just leave the party if they choose to do so.

But please, everyone, stop throwing insults at each other. Understand all perspectives before engaging in a discussion and that there will be differing opinions. At this point, both sides are just repeating their stance on the matter and are not contributing anything new to the topic. Anyone who recently entered the discussion, please give the topic a read through before saying anything. Your questions and doubt may have been answered in a previous post.

[Hollowed]

So player should have the right to join any PF out there, because they should have the right to choose. It would be better if they had the good sense to join the right ones, but the freedom belongs to all players, not just the party creator/host. So the host does not get exclude people. They can talk to them and even try the instance with them, but the host has the kick power to remove people. The PF host no more entitled to quick and easy farms then a random player looking for quick and easy farm clear. Both are equal, and if both are too lazy, they deserve to be together with each other and be stuck in the mess they are in. If you want to farm on consistent basis, do tryouts, recruit form your farm static.

If you want to blindly argue with these people about your opinion then by all means do it, but don't you dare twist what I said to use as examples; that is called lying and manipulating. Coward.

[Alistaire]

Why are we even debating this matter still? People who can't kill it theirselves will just buy a kill and put up a PF 1 minute later asking for a "farm group" and "kill xp only". I see it every day, your checkbox or any other ideas won't stop this from happening...

Nothing stops everything; just cause some will sneak thru doesn't mean the idea isn't a good one and stop some of it.

[Scootaloo]

This thread was dead from the moment it was made. Seriously, do you REALLY THINK they are going to put a "clearance" requirement on DF when they have been doing their damnest so far to make sure all classes get a fair shot in any run by rendering the classes to basic roles and removing the one thing that could make a difference?(I'm referring to the elemental wheel)

[Ryel]

This thread was dead from the moment it was made. Seriously, do you REALLY THINK they are going to put a "clearance" requirement on DF when they have been doing their damnest so far to make sure all classes get a fair shot in any run by rendering the classes to basic roles and removing the one thing that could make a difference?(I'm referring to the elemental wheel)

Nope, but considering what people are asking for is an option for the PARTY FINDER I could see it as being entirely possible as the entire design of the PARTY FINDER is party customization and setting your own rules as a party creator.

Once again this is talking exclusively about the PARTY FINDER and not the DF.

PARTY FINDER

[Dwill]

This thread was dead from the moment it was made. Seriously, do you REALLY THINK they are going to put a "clearance" requirement on DF when they have been doing their damnest so far to make sure all classes get a fair shot in any run by rendering the classes to basic roles and removing the one thing that could make a difference?(I'm referring to the elemental wheel)

Talks about Duty Finder, thread is about Party Finder then proceed to go off-topic with the elemental wheel which has zero to do with this thread. Way to go!

[TomTom1968]

I think it's cruel that you are unwilling to teach new players the ropes ever, but would rather have fast clears every week. This is just my two cents, but I guess you're entitled to your apparent selfishness.

You compare apples with pears here. It is not like everybody wants to do farm runs 100% of their time. You know, also Veterans have a learning curve when new content is introduced. Only at the end of it, you call it farming. And there are times for different things. There are times to learn a fight, there are times to help other people, be it from your FC/LS or randoms from Party Finder. And there is a time to farm something. Which means you expect EVERYBODY in the group to obtain several wins without big problems and multiple tries.

Please don't make it look like players who like to farm certain content are generally unwilling to help. This isn't the case. The whole thread is about those moments when you want to farm something, not more, not less. And sorry to play Captain Master of the Obvious and Master of Caps Lock here but OF COURSE YOU DO NOT WANT NEWBIES ON A FARM RUN. Holy Jesus on a pogo stick. Is that so hard to comprehend?

Just search this thread. The "clearance condition" is the "no newbies wanted" checkbox. That is not an accusation, that statement is a correct summary of what has been written.

You again? Still here? Please actually do some Endgame content before you discuss about things you have zero Experience with. Thank you.

Nope, but considering what people are asking for is an option for the PARTY FINDER I could see it as being entirely possible as the entire design of the PARTY FINDER is party customization and setting your own rules as a party creator.

Once again this is talking exclusively about the PARTY FINDER and not the DF.

PARTY FINDER

Thank you for mentioning this important fact again. Seems some people still do not get what this thread is about.

[Ashkendor]

This thread was dead from the moment it was made. Seriously, do you REALLY THINK they are going to put a "clearance" requirement on DF when they have been doing their damnest so far to make sure all classes get a fair shot in any run by rendering the classes to basic roles and removing the one thing that could make a difference?(I'm referring to the elemental wheel)

Reading at least some of the previous posts (or heck even the original post) would've helped a lot.

[NyarukoW]

It is obvious the other players are taken for granted with responses like these:

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And I'll tell you right now, if you were on my server, you'd have a permanent spot with all the gilsellers on my blacklist.

I may not always feed every stray I come across. I may not always hand loose change to everyone that waves a cup at me...

Newer players are strays, seriously? Homeless are somehow less valued as people? You make threats to blacklist people because they disagree with you?

...You are not even worth the measuring stick that would try to measure your worth in-game or IRL. ...

A little humility will do people with attitudes like this some good. BTW even if you cleared T9 and can farm all the EX primals, your worth in game is still about $14.99 a month to SE.

Other players are not there for you to exploit and abuse. If you are on the PF you are begging for help from other players. Beggars can not be choosers. The "no newbies wanted" check box is fundamentally wrong, practically nonfunctional, causes tremendous collateral damage and will be a PR nightmare.

[NyarukoW]

.. There's a reason you can get an app for your phone that will make a can opening sound to get your cat to come out.

It works the first few times, then they ignore you. And that is people baiting cats, and the cats are not begging. It is just like putting up a farm PF, it will attract all the players you didn't want.

Also, before you try to call anyone out on not having something, ask yourself twice if it's a good idea to do else you might end up looking like a fool.

Obviously you are too foolish to understand cats. Nice cat pictures by the way, but you forgot to photoshop your character into the pictures. You misintepret their actions as begging, when they are actually demanding you to feed them. And they will never beg you clean the litter box, they will just leave the crap in places you couldn't imagine.