Please add clearance condition to Group Finder

[Aylis]

Why are we even debating this matter still? People who can't kill it theirselves will just buy a kill and put up a PF 1 minute later asking for a "farm group" and "kill xp only". I see it every day, your checkbox or any other ideas won't stop this from happening...

I think its more for an ease of life thing really. To click a check box rather then filling the party description with messages of "experienced players only" "farm party only" etc etc etc. To let players free up the party description text box for things like whats locked, what strategy they want to use, how long the farm party plans to go for etc etc etc.

Absolutely not, it won't stop people from sneaking into parties. Its more for a classification just as we have a check box now that reads "Newcomers Welcome"

[AdamFyi]

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Yes, it doesn't help much because they can set up their own PFs as well, but people are not stupid. They can just leave the party if they choose to do so.

But please, everyone, stop throwing insults at each other. Understand all perspectives before engaging in a discussion and that there will be differing opinions. At this point, both sides are just repeating their stance on the matter and are not contributing anything new to the topic. Anyone who recently entered the discussion, please give the topic a read through before saying anything. Your questions and doubt may have been answered in a previous post.

[Alistaire]

Why are we even debating this matter still? People who can't kill it theirselves will just buy a kill and put up a PF 1 minute later asking for a "farm group" and "kill xp only". I see it every day, your checkbox or any other ideas won't stop this from happening...

Nothing stops everything; just cause some will sneak thru doesn't mean the idea isn't a good one and stop some of it.

[Amelia_Pond_Behemoth]

PF leaders can exclude whoever the hell they want. Maybe nobody, maybe people with i109 or below. They can set whatever crazy demands they want. "Farm group, all items locked" or they can be more reasonable. "Greed only please." No matter what, by joining the party, you agree to whatever conditions the leader has set. By sneaking in for a ninja win, you are choosing not to adhere to the leader's requests, and are therefore griefing.

[Scootaloo]

This thread was dead from the moment it was made. Seriously, do you REALLY THINK they are going to put a "clearance" requirement on DF when they have been doing their damnest so far to make sure all classes get a fair shot in any run by rendering the classes to basic roles and removing the one thing that could make a difference?(I'm referring to the elemental wheel)

[Ryel]

This thread was dead from the moment it was made. Seriously, do you REALLY THINK they are going to put a "clearance" requirement on DF when they have been doing their damnest so far to make sure all classes get a fair shot in any run by rendering the classes to basic roles and removing the one thing that could make a difference?(I'm referring to the elemental wheel)

Nope, but considering what people are asking for is an option for the PARTY FINDER I could see it as being entirely possible as the entire design of the PARTY FINDER is party customization and setting your own rules as a party creator.

Once again this is talking exclusively about the PARTY FINDER and not the DF.

PARTY FINDER

[TomTom1968]

I think it's cruel that you are unwilling to teach new players the ropes ever, but would rather have fast clears every week. This is just my two cents, but I guess you're entitled to your apparent selfishness.

You compare apples with pears here. It is not like everybody wants to do farm runs 100% of their time. You know, also Veterans have a learning curve when new content is introduced. Only at the end of it, you call it farming. And there are times for different things. There are times to learn a fight, there are times to help other people, be it from your FC/LS or randoms from Party Finder. And there is a time to farm something. Which means you expect EVERYBODY in the group to obtain several wins without big problems and multiple tries.

Please don't make it look like players who like to farm certain content are generally unwilling to help. This isn't the case. The whole thread is about those moments when you want to farm something, not more, not less. And sorry to play Captain Master of the Obvious and Master of Caps Lock here but OF COURSE YOU DO NOT WANT NEWBIES ON A FARM RUN. Holy Jesus on a pogo stick. Is that so hard to comprehend?

Just search this thread. The "clearance condition" is the "no newbies wanted" checkbox. That is not an accusation, that statement is a correct summary of what has been written.

You again? Still here? Please actually do some Endgame content before you discuss about things you have zero Experience with. Thank you.

Nope, but considering what people are asking for is an option for the PARTY FINDER I could see it as being entirely possible as the entire design of the PARTY FINDER is party customization and setting your own rules as a party creator.

Once again this is talking exclusively about the PARTY FINDER and not the DF.

PARTY FINDER

Thank you for mentioning this important fact again. Seems some people still do not get what this thread is about.

[Dwill]

This thread was dead from the moment it was made. Seriously, do you REALLY THINK they are going to put a "clearance" requirement on DF when they have been doing their damnest so far to make sure all classes get a fair shot in any run by rendering the classes to basic roles and removing the one thing that could make a difference?(I'm referring to the elemental wheel)

Talks about Duty Finder, thread is about Party Finder then proceed to go off-topic with the elemental wheel which has zero to do with this thread. Way to go!

[Ashkendor]

This thread was dead from the moment it was made. Seriously, do you REALLY THINK they are going to put a "clearance" requirement on DF when they have been doing their damnest so far to make sure all classes get a fair shot in any run by rendering the classes to basic roles and removing the one thing that could make a difference?(I'm referring to the elemental wheel)

Reading at least some of the previous posts (or heck even the original post) would've helped a lot.

[NyarukoW]

It is obvious the other players are taken for granted with responses like these:

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And I'll tell you right now, if you were on my server, you'd have a permanent spot with all the gilsellers on my blacklist.

I may not always feed every stray I come across. I may not always hand loose change to everyone that waves a cup at me...

Newer players are strays, seriously? Homeless are somehow less valued as people? You make threats to blacklist people because they disagree with you?

...You are not even worth the measuring stick that would try to measure your worth in-game or IRL. ...

A little humility will do people with attitudes like this some good. BTW even if you cleared T9 and can farm all the EX primals, your worth in game is still about $14.99 a month to SE.

Other players are not there for you to exploit and abuse. If you are on the PF you are begging for help from other players. Beggars can not be choosers. The "no newbies wanted" check box is fundamentally wrong, practically nonfunctional, causes tremendous collateral damage and will be a PR nightmare.