Average BLM DPS T8?

[Aikaal]

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You completely missed Harold's point lol.

Because I have more Spell Speed, when I use Thunder 1, my cast is so fast that I have time to cast a free Blizzard 1. I'll rarely get a tick right away to skip that Blizzard 1. That's the reason why you gain so much DPS.

In your scenario, you've completely ignored about 5 Blizzard 1 which is about 850 Potency you didn't calculate.

[Numenor1379]

Numenor, while your point is somewhat accurate in very, very specific situations I can assure you that those situations are few and far between. In the most extreme case, you are looking at .1s faster cast, which is roughly the same amount of time as the server ticks that were so popularized by Titan failures. In order to reach this .1s, you have to lose even more DPC, putting you even further behind in the case of anything less than perfect circumstances.

Your assumption that getting off ONE extra cast means you win the DPS race isn't entirely accurate. In the first example, 30 casts of 1017 = 30510 damage. 31 casts of 994 = 30814 damage, less than 1% change. I think everyone can agree that is far more reliant on luck than Harold here is making it out to be.

You can try to change what Harold is saying but what he actually said was quoted. Neither of those things are true and show that, despite his supposed prowess at BLM, he seems to not understand something very basic.

Oh don't get me wrong, I'm in complete agreement with you on this as well. Until the SSPD build has managed to get enough casts in extra to overcome the individually weaker spell damage it's at a disadvantage. Also, if you push your gear for SSPD you are going to lose a lot of INT given the requirement of using i90 crafted gear over i110 stuff.

I took a look at Harold's crafted gear, and it's impressive. But frankly, I think he's given up way too much main-stat for the off-stats his theorycrafting has as best. Comparing his gear to my own, he's got about 40-45 INT less than I do while having about 120 more SSPD and 50sh more CRIT, DET is about the same. Adding up those differences we come out to a rough wash in INT stats. So the big advantage he's got over me is that his casts take 0.11s less to make than mine.

IF, and this is a big IF, he manages to get time periods where he can get enough casts off to overcome his significantly lower base INT stat he'll come out ahead. But as I was stating in the other thread real-world applications of theory rarely meet up at the optimal levels promised by that theory. RNG and human error account for a lot.

One other thing to note is his going with i90 gear has significantly lowered his survivability over people running i110 stuff. ~500 less HP, and 20 less DEF/MDEF is nothing to sneer at.

Thank god im not alone....

@ Harold I'm around 450 in t8 with 110 weapon and no selene in my raid. the bard is using foe 1nce or maybe twice in that fight, we rly dont Need Maximum dmg cause we doing it with 1 tank.
just listen to the Person above. sure in t8 u dont have to Interrupt or move a lot, but in t9 or all the other fights u have to.

You're not alone athenia, I was just showing another example of how SSPD is good to have.