Average BLM DPS T8?

[Sensyon]

A couple things that might help TC. You're losing Thunder up time for a few seconds with Thunder 1. In your video it was down about 4 to 5 seconds. Try Thunder 2 instead. Another thing, if you have a Firestarter proc while in UI, use transpose to go into AF1, then use your proc. I also use HQ poison pots and HQ Intelligence pots to give my dps a boost in T8. You can try that.

[Xisin]

I've posted this once before, but here it is again my t8 video (This is not average but people have been talking like this is optimal or w/e average t8 dps for a blm would be around 400-430 don't sweat too much if you are at this level of dp - this is for higher geared blms)

Anyway - 490 DPS t8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uzt3plGE46k


Spell speed will win over any stat blm has due to the amount of spell speed available to us. DET wins on a point by point basis UNLESS selene is available (which she should be) then ss wins out overall. period. INT is better on a point by point basis for all of these stats... thats pretty obvious. The i110 setup is also better than anything available to us currently.
DPS numbers have less to do with rotation as most blms follow pretty much the same rotation its more about thunder management and not losing globals on movement - all of which is a skill that blms should try to develop. In this video pay particular attention to how i manage thunders before flaring.

[Skeith-Adeline]

Tonights run of T8 had me at 380. I still don't understand how you guys are so much higher. It isn't like I'm the lowest dps on my group (highest) but, I want to push 400 so being highest with 382 doesn't feel right.

[nugglets]

Just to clarify, everyone is using numbers from the same place correct? The main two parsers will give completely different numbers.

[HaroldSaxon]

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What DPS are you doing in T8?

I will try to explain one last time. I don't have to cancel any casts in T8. I rarely have to move to cancel a cast, you make it sound like it happens all the time. Even if I do its for 1 GCD (and I can use Scathe, Firestarter, Thundercloud, Swiftcast) which I still stay ahead as my GCD is lower and I can get back into my rotation quicker, and I stay ahead the entire time. If there is a break in the fight, there is a break for all classes and no-one can DPS, and it doesn't matter what build you have, no boss there = no dps. If you find you are constantly cancelling casts as BLM, you need to learn the fight better because you are not fully acclimatised with the fight. I've given you plenty of examples where you don't have to stop DPS'ing for movement, if you don't want to improve yourself, then fine, but don't come into threads ignoring experience, facts and evidence.

[HaroldSaxon]

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=371140226383800

Here is my rotation

First things first: Gear wise you are 12 over the accuracy cap. Do you have any gearpieces from Second Coil?

Secondly; You seem to be losing a small amount of time when switching your hotbar to use Blizzard 3.

Thirdly; Its a small dps gain when you have a firestarter proc in ice phase to use transpose at the end and then use your proc.

Its hard to say about your performance in T8 without seeing how you are reacting to certain mechanics (Ballistic Missiles, Landmines, saving quelling for the dread etc) with your rotation.

[HaroldSaxon]

A couple things that might help TC. You're losing Thunder up time for a few seconds with Thunder 1. In your video it was down about 4 to 5 seconds. Try Thunder 2 instead. Another thing, if you have a Firestarter proc while in UI, use transpose to go into AF1, then use your proc. I also use HQ poison pots and HQ Intelligence pots to give my dps a boost in T8. You can try that.

Its been proven that Thunder 1 is more DPS than Thunder 2. See the other BLM thread for that.

[nugglets]

1) If you have to cancel a cast running Spellspeed, you WILL have to cancel for Crit/Det. This means that any bonus that was achieved by spellspeed is still achieved because you are still ahead.

2) When you do cancel, you have a longer time recasting with crit/det compared to spellspeed. Another instant advantage.

SSPD builds, make up for lower damage per cast(DPC) by getting in more casts. You can plainly see this when comparing the BiS sets on the spreadsheet. The DPC of the first Laeveteinn set is 1017 and the second is 994, yet the DPS values are 429.3 and 429.0.

Both of these points are completely inaccurate.

[nugglets]

To continue from above:

The person you are berating is right. Until you get in MORE casts your damage will be lower. So if you have not been casting uninterrupted long enough to have gotten in at least 1 extra cast, your DPS will be lower. As soon as you start recasting it will take you reaching the threshold of time where you are able to get an extra cast before you can start to make up that difference, all while losing ground in the DPS race.

In the above example from the Spreadsheet, it would take you 30 GCD's in order to get to the point where you achieved ONE extra cast. With 582 SSPD (the end of Puro's chart) you would need 22 casts to get in an extra cast. That's uninterrupted casts. The second you stop, this counter resets.

[Numenor1379]

To be fair to what Harold is saying (and I can't believe I actually agree with him on this) SSPD still is better than a Det/Crit build for the simple fact that it gives you more flexibility as far as getting casts off. You don't need to have continous casting for the SSPD build to come out ahead, you just need one span of time where the SSPD set can get a cast off where the DET/CRIT one cannot.

Say for example the SSPD set took 2.3s to cast F1, and the DET/CRIT one took 2.4. What happens when you have a pause for 2.35s to launch a spell? In that case the SSPD set can get a cast off where it is impossible for the other build to do so. That is the advantage SSPD gives, continous casting is only part of it.