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    Abolish Gc vs GC vs GC in frontlines.

    And simply make it 24 vs 24 vs 24. Gc vs GC vs GC might be fine on mass populated Legacy servers, but on Odin if you are in maelstrom you can expect 2 hour + queues.

    The reasoning for gc vs gc vs gc was because it could be supported by lore this way, which is nice of course, but ultimately the most important thing to consider NOW, is that the BG thrives, and it certainly is not doing that on Odin.

    People queue, don't get pulled, lose interest. It's just sad. This should be popping near instantly, but this cannot happen currently when all are ganged up in the same GC. And it isn't fair to suggest that players switch GC just to get faster queues, it would still be a broken and flawed system.

    Please agree with this thread and help fix this great content for less populated servers T_T
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    People wanted faction-based PvP...the price they pay is when one faction trumps another in population (which is the same no matter what the game).
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    Makes no difference if it's faction based or not, literally none. All this GC side of it serves now, is to simply limit and hurt the activity of this BG.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Velox View Post
    People wanted faction-based PvP...the price they pay is when one faction trumps another in population (which is the same no matter what the game).
    I'm gonna need to see proof for this statement; the whole time fronlines was announced till the time it was implemented people guessed it might be limited to GC but never saw posts on any forum about people who wanted it to be like that.

    Edit:...and even if they did then, queue times probably have them changing their minds about it now, so your point is at best irrelevant, and at worst flat out wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alistaire View Post
    I'm gonna need to see proof for this statement; the whole time fronlines was announced till the time it was implemented people guessed it might be limited to GC but never saw posts on any forum about people who wanted it to be like that.

    Edit:...and even if they did then, queue times probably have them changing their minds about it now, so your point is at best irrelevant, and at worst flat out wrong.
    Bold statement and totally ignored other half of the PvP community lol
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    Is this now a weekly ranting? If you are NA player playing on Odin server.......it is one od EURO server on the CHAOS cluster. Here is the list of reasons for your problem if you met condition I described:

    1. Your prime time is different than EURO players.
    2. there are only 8 servers in CHAOS while both Aethers and Primals have more than 11 servers.
    3. You are a Malestorm is making your situation even worst.

    Above situations only apply to NA player who played on EURO server. If it is the case, you are better off to transfer server.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Divinemight View Post
    Is this now a weekly ranting? If you are NA player playing on Odin server.......it is one od EURO server on the CHAOS cluster. Here is the list of reasons for your problem if you met condition I described:

    1. Your prime time is different than EURO players.
    2. there are only 8 servers in CHAOS while both Aethers and Primals have more than 11 servers.
    3. You are a Malestorm is making your situation even worst.

    Above situations only apply to NA player who played on EURO server. If it is the case, you are better off to transfer server.
    I'm European. Your assumption has left me speechless however, why on earth did you assume I was an "NA player"?

    And yes, maybe switching GC might relieve the problem, it still doesn't resolve the fact that there is no reason to have this system, or at least, there is more reason to not have it than to have it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sessurea View Post
    I'm European. Your assumption has left me speechless however, why on earth did you assume I was an "NA player"?
    I am not assume anything, sorry if my wording makes you feel that way. You are not the first one making this type of post. Two weeks ago, one guy from CHAO is complaining of same situation, but he is NA player. Simply provide the same resolution that is all.

    You can keep going all you want, you are not the first who refuse to switch anyway. If you don't like GC affliction, that is fine, you are entitled to your opinion. Yet, keep in mind tho, there are people who likes GC affliction conflict system out there.
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    Last edited by Divinemight; 09-08-2014 at 04:27 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sessurea View Post
    And simply make it 24 vs 24 vs 24. Gc vs GC vs GC might be fine on mass populated Legacy servers, but on Odin if you are in maelstrom you can expect 2 hour + queues.
    Same thing happens on Primal data center. Maelstrom has absurd wait times of about the same length of wait. Adder and Flames have shorter wait times but at the sacrifice of a high chance of losing because Maelstrom stomps both GC's seemingly almost every game.


    Quote Originally Posted by Divinemight View Post
    If you don't like GC affliction, that is fine, you are entitled to your opinion. Yet, keep in mind tho, there are people who likes GC affliction conflict system out there.
    at this point it is not a matter of an opinion or liking or disliking GC vs GC vs GC setup but a matter of maintaining game integrity. lore should never come at the sacrifice of maintaining a game's quality. it was fine and no one was complaining about wait times when Frontlines was new and the mass population was there, but after about 2 weeks, all the fanfare has died and the pvp population has bottomed-out on top of people swapping GCs to the winning GC, which now leaves us with a unequal GC populations that is affecting the game's integrity. i myself have seriously dropped off of playing FFXIV as much as i used to because of the wait times. i was waiting upwards from 30min to 1-2hours+ and i have lost the lust to do that anymore; its mind-draining and i get tired just from waiting. sometimes i've waited so long, i've forgotten i was in the game and left the house to go somewhere, came back and i was STILL waiting in queue. no one should have to wait that long in any game and any game manufacturer who thinks its okay and logical to stick to lore over a paying customer's game experience and permits the issue to carry on without addressing it patch after patch after patch, is going to make their own game "lore" as players' patience runs out and they move on to other things.

    Christmas is coming and there's a few new expansions and new games coming out soon. SE should be trying to make their game more appealing to make people to stay rather than drive them away for better games because the competition is coming.
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    Can you please explain to me why you think this isn't broken? And can you also perhaps offer a reasonable explanation as to why you think it's ok that people should be expected to switch servers in order to enjoy pvp? Your posts so far have been pretty much empty and full of nothing. No offence.
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    Last edited by Sessurea; 09-08-2014 at 04:33 PM.

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