Abolish Gc vs GC vs GC in frontlines.

[Divinemight]

Sit there all you want disagreeing with me, but all you are saying is "it's ok for me, so it can't be broken for you". I'm pretty sure SE will find interest in these posts if they notice them, so keep the posts coming. Any discussion is better than a dead thread I guess.

Like I said, this type of ranting happens weekly. I seriously don't care anymore. The only motivation when I reply is because I may be able to help someone who is not aware that he is NA player on an EURO server. But, in your case, you are not. There is no need to throw your soars about GC at me.

You are from a smaller server cluster in which your only resolution is to move to other GC to balance the GC distribution. You are not willing to do so out of your own intentions that I have no interest in it. You are asking a change of system to catering the minority when their intention is to let players balance the GC distribution by themselves. (Cool down is now 15 days).

I am here to provide assistance, but since you don't need it, I wish you good luck on your crusade. You may keep going to see if this is another dead thread . Majority of players who has issue already changed GC and now enjoying the frontline tho.

[Jican]

For those against GC vs GC in frontlines, just stop. Not only will it not change, there is a REASON it's GC vs GC. It's contested land BETWEEN THE GRAND COMPANIES. Not a free for all for adventurers. Get over it, it's not going anywhere. You are simply someone fighting for a side in a "friendly" battle between who will own that land and it's riches. You are a mercenary in the fight, preventing all three nations from going into a full scale war over it. SO, get over the fact that your best friends won't change GC for you, or vice versa, or that pre-made parties have the communication to wipe your healers, or that healers are OP because you can't figure out how to deal with them, ect. ect. and just deal with it. There are far too many complaints about this system for people that can opt to simply NOT DO IT!

[Gor]

And simply make it 24 vs 24 vs 24. Gc vs GC vs GC might be fine on mass populated Legacy servers, but on Odin if you are in maelstrom you can expect 2 hour + queues.

Same thing happens on Primal data center. Maelstrom has absurd wait times of about the same length of wait. Adder and Flames have shorter wait times but at the sacrifice of a high chance of losing because Maelstrom stomps both GC's seemingly almost every game.

If you don't like GC affliction, that is fine, you are entitled to your opinion. Yet, keep in mind tho, there are people who likes GC affliction conflict system out there.

at this point it is not a matter of an opinion or liking or disliking GC vs GC vs GC setup but a matter of maintaining game integrity. lore should never come at the sacrifice of maintaining a game's quality. it was fine and no one was complaining about wait times when Frontlines was new and the mass population was there, but after about 2 weeks, all the fanfare has died and the pvp population has bottomed-out on top of people swapping GCs to the winning GC, which now leaves us with a unequal GC populations that is affecting the game's integrity. i myself have seriously dropped off of playing FFXIV as much as i used to because of the wait times. i was waiting upwards from 30min to 1-2hours+ and i have lost the lust to do that anymore; its mind-draining and i get tired just from waiting. sometimes i've waited so long, i've forgotten i was in the game and left the house to go somewhere, came back and i was STILL waiting in queue. no one should have to wait that long in any game and any game manufacturer who thinks its okay and logical to stick to lore over a paying customer's game experience and permits the issue to carry on without addressing it patch after patch after patch, is going to make their own game "lore" as players' patience runs out and they move on to other things.

Christmas is coming and there's a few new expansions and new games coming out soon. SE should be trying to make their game more appealing to make people to stay rather than drive them away for better games because the competition is coming.

[Copestetic]

PvP being held back because of lore is just terrible design period. Having some lore's fine and all, but when that lore is preventing people from getting into PvP it's an issue. Drop GC's and turn it into a red vs blue vs green type of thing.

[Gor]

For those against GC vs GC in frontlines, just stop. Not only will it not change, there is a REASON it's GC vs GC. It's contested land BETWEEN THE GRAND COMPANIES. Not a free for all for adventurers. Get over it, it's not going anywhere.

no one gives a damn about the reason when they are waiting hours for a queue; peoples' patience will only go so far. it has nothing to do with being a free for all. the free for all is getting all the xp and marks just from playing whether its 1st, 2nd or 3rd place, not a matter of which gc you're on.

[Sessurea]

Thanks for all responses ( even the negative ones, and especially the constructive and reasonable ones ). Happy to see other people feel strongly about this and find it unacceptable that SE have created a system that is not compatible with a small population, and with the non-issue sacrifice of abandoning lore, could be improved infinitely.

[NorthernLadMSP]

I agree with the OP. I'm on Maelstrom on Famfrit (primal data center). The best queue time I ever see is about 20 minutes, the worst being over 45+ minutes (I generally withdraw and re-queue after about 35 minutes). Granted, that is not 2 hours like the OP is suggesting, but I have friends on my server in Flames that get in almost instantly.

While the lore is cool, and it's fun to be in the GC with the most wins, I really feel Frontlines would benefit more for being more like Syrcus Tower, in that you get placed in a random group of players and you're duking it out with the teams of the opposing color (red, blue, yellow). That would give everyone a much greater chance for nice queue times, and there wouldn't be any stigma about "this GC is great" or "that one sucks."

[FoxNoir]

I see no point continuing to restrict FL to GC simply because of lore. Players pvp for the fun and challenge, not to continually experience the lore. If you don't pvp then it doesn't really impact you and shouldn't matter that much to you. Imagine if they restricted raids and dungeons to a GC or some other restrictive Q system just because of some arbitrary lore, the community would be outraged. How many players that frequently play FL actually want the GC system, enjoy the long Qs, one GC consistently dominating, and the resulting diminishing interest?

[NorthernLadMSP]

The other thing that should be mentioned, is not only are you restricted to your GC, you're also punished if you choose to switch GC's, by losing all of your PVP rank if you make the change. So, prohibits the system from trying to "even itself out" with people wanting to leave Maelstrom because of queue times to go to Adder or Flames.

[Sessurea]

The other thing that should be mentioned, is not only are you restricted to your GC, you're also punished if you choose to switch GC's, by losing all of your PVP rank if you make the change. So, prohibits the system from trying to "even itself out" with people wanting to leave Maelstrom because of queue times to go to Adder or Flames.

Well this is a big issue also. My friend is rank 35 and we're both in matstrom. Switching GC isn't an option he would even consider atm, but we hope for a fix, since logically, there is no reason to not have one.

Again, thanks for support, please keep it up guys.