About mnk...no offense Houston but I can only base these Tier lists on personal experience (it may be cheating but in the case of mnk vs drg, I'm also recalling WD fights too) Mnk has no ranged attacks (don't mean Shoulder Tackle) to start with so as long as they can't reach ya, can't hit ya. While this goes for all other melee classes, during kite stage, mnk has lowest def. Drg, with Elusive Jump, has 2 forms of Purify..mnk..has 1. Drg has the ability to nullify its positional penalties. Mnk..doesn't. Sigh..then theres burst. One Inch Punch might be taken kindve seriously by schs, but whms laugh at it. Ranged, defensively, offensively, theres just nothing mnk can do that another class can't do better. ...except brd...who has no LB and *cough* no burst. *Hear that Yoshi? We brds are at teh bottom of list so moar abilities prz.*