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    No spiritbonding in hard dungeons?

    So i decided to make some 55 armor to spirit bond in dungeons i remember being able to spirit bond it in AK back in the day in 3 or 4 runs..

    I go complete the whole hatali hard dungeon and still at one percent i get out do a fate and i am up to 5 on everything ...

    Did they disable exp gain in hard and exp dungeons?
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    In order to address the issue of players undertaking a duty and then equipping gear lower than the required item level for the purpose of spirit bonding, the following adjustments have been made:
    The rate at which gear gains spiritbond will now be reduced when gear is not the appropriate level for a given duty or open-world encounter. Furthermore, if the item level of gear is too high or too low, it will no longer gain spiritbond.

    Example:
     Rubelite Ring (item level 49)

    The ring will gain spiritbond at a reduced rate in duties such as the Labyrinth of the Ancients and Pharos Sirius, but will gain spiritbond at an increased rate in duties such as Castrum Meridianum and Wanderer's Palace.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shodori View Post
    So i decided to make some 55 armor to spirit bond in dungeons i remember being able to spirit bond it in AK back in the day in 3 or 4 runs..

    I go complete the whole hatali hard dungeon and still at one percent i get out do a fate and i am up to 5 on everything ...

    Did they disable exp gain in hard and exp dungeons?
    It means the level of the mobs in Halatali Hard are too high for an ilvl 55 piece. Try something like AK or WP.
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    That makes no sense

    Yet the minimum requirement for the dungeon is level 55... means that it should BE EXACTLY the right number to do the dungeon in.. otherwise raise the requirement of the dungeon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shodori View Post
    Yet the minimum requirement for the dungeon is level 55... means that it should BE EXACTLY the right number to do the dungeon in.. otherwise raise the requirement of the dungeon
    Minimum != recommended, it's just the bare minimum to enter the content, though I do agree that it can be a bit misleading.

    A good example of this is a full party of i48 players doing Pharos, Copperhell or Haukke HM, they will have a really bad time.

    Monster ilvl seems to be adjusted to the same ilvl of the gear that drops there, or around the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shodori View Post
    Yet the minimum requirement for the dungeon is level 55... means that it should BE EXACTLY the right number to do the dungeon in.. otherwise raise the requirement of the dungeon
    Wrong. It's closer to the gear provided if anything. Minimum requirement is just that, bare minimum. The mobs will always be higher than that. If the mobs were i55 internally, it would pose no challenge to someone in i55.
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    Mrew

    If they set the minimums to 55 then I should be able to level i 55 gear in that dungeon... if they set it to 60 or above them now.. or 45 ...

    If they are going to do this kinda stuff they need to inform the player which dungeons will provide spirit bonding and which will not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shodori View Post
    If they set the minimums to 55 then I should be able to level i 55 gear in that dungeon... if they set it to 60 or above them now.. or 45 ...

    If they are going to do this kinda stuff they need to inform the player which dungeons will provide spirit bonding and which will not.
    Wrong again. You see minimum as the normal level for it. Minimum is literally bare minimum, ie you're "technically" undergeared, but good players can do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ispano View Post
    Wrong again. You see minimum as the normal level for it. Minimum is literally bare minimum, ie you're "technically" undergeared, but good players can do it.
    Indeed. What you think should happen, OP, is irrelevant. This is how it works.
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    Having an opinion does not make you right or wrong, it simply means you have an opinion. Don't get irritated when people don't agree.

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    You have to sprit bond in the same ilvl dungeon. ilvl 55 is WP and AK only.
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