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    Felis's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Skadi Felis
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    Ragnarok
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    Pugilist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Lemuria View Post
    Having a reason to choose one skill over another is what we're lacking right now.
    BLM still choose between their skills depending how many enemies are on one place, how much MP is still there, how good the tank can build enmity, how long the fight would last.

    1 choice less is not the same as no choices.

    Trouble is, it can't happen now because they've built the entire Black Mage class over a measly 3 elements. Black mage? More like a muddy-grey mage.
    My opinion is that the solution to this would be putting all elemental spells back where they were originaly and give THM another job, like WHM (and give them their cone AoE back). They are priests after all and were the best healers while the CNJ were the ones who played with elements.

    Even in the discussions which classes get WHM or BLM before the infos about it got announced, I was in the "give THM the WHM job" group.
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    Lemuria's Avatar
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    Lemuria Glitterhands
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    Ragnarok
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    Conjurer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    BLM still choose between their skills depending how many enemies are on one place, how much MP is still there, how good the tank can build enmity, how long the fight would last.

    1 choice less is not the same as no choices.
    Black Mage gets what exactly? Spam fire until MP depletes, swap to Ice, go back to Fire once you've regened MP. Toss in a Thunder DoT for good measure when it drops. That's not really a 'choice', it's a rotation. And once you get into a rotation, it's pretty much the only way to play the class. Other jobs work in an identical fashion with their own rotations, excepting healers who at least are a bit more proactive.

    I was absolutely furious when they removed half my nukes on Conjurer. This was, at the time, combined with a massive MP hike on spells meaning that I could literally cast only 4 cures before I was utterly drained. Still, I would have traded ALL of them to Thaumaturge if we'd still have something that still resembled a proper Black Mage.
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    BloodPact's Avatar
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Atemi'a Arecis
    World
    Leviathan
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    Astrologian Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Lemuria View Post
    Black Mage gets what exactly? Spam fire until MP depletes, swap to Ice, go back to Fire once you've regened MP. Toss in a Thunder DoT for good measure when it drops. That's not really a 'choice', it's a rotation. And once you get into a rotation, it's pretty much the only way to play the class. Other jobs work in an identical fashion with their own rotations, excepting healers who at least are a bit more proactive.

    I was absolutely furious when they removed half my nukes on Conjurer. This was, at the time, combined with a massive MP hike on spells meaning that I could literally cast only 4 cures before I was utterly drained. Still, I would have traded ALL of them to Thaumaturge if we'd still have something that still resembled a proper Black Mage.

    As long as it's not the Black Mage from XI where all you did was spam Thunder IV until out of MP then rest for 3 minutes. So much more complexity than this game...
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