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    Why can't we have jobs with this level of depth and customization in FFXIV?

    Recently I reactivated on That Game, and I was checking out some of the new jobs added since I last quit.

    And I came across this page.

    Holy sheet. Not even just spells and abilities and MP/TP management... You can even customize the AI??

    Why can't we have jobs that have this kind of customization and depth in FFXIV? My FC doesn't understand why I refuse to play DPS in XIV, but... if there was something like this... I wouldn't even care if it was shunned in endgame, I'd be all over it anyway.

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    Edited to add: (To help keep this thread on topic)

    This thread is not a request to bring in puppetmaster.
    This thread is not a request to copy FFXI mechanics or endgame, etc.


    What is it? A request for more complex, thought out, deep jobs. Comparable to some jobs/classes seen in other MMOs. I used a specific example of a job from XI I came across while surfing, but it's not the only example out there.

    I'm not saying the more straightforward jobs should go away. I would just like to see some options at the other end of the spectrum.
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    Because this is XIV, not XI. Sorry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alipoprocks View Post
    Because this is XIV, not XI. Sorry.
    This is X not Y is a terrible reason for not adding in interesting mechanics/depth to the game.
    Seriously people who reply like this are stupid.

    There is a huge outcry by lots of people for more depth in all areas of the game, from gear, to jobs, to the open world, to monster AI. BUT NOPE THIS IS XIV SO WE CAN'T HAVE THAT NOT AT ALL XIV DOESN'T ACCOMMODATE TO CHANGE OR CHOICES FOR THE PLAYER.
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    Quote Originally Posted by saeedaisspecial View Post
    This is X not Y is a terrible reason for not adding in interesting mechanics/depth to the game.
    Seriously people who reply like this are stupid.

    There is a huge outcry by lots of people for more depth in all areas of the game, from gear, to jobs, to the open world, to monster AI. BUT NOPE THIS IS XIV SO WE CAN'T HAVE THAT NOT AT ALL XIV DOESN'T ACCOMMODATE TO CHANGE OR CHOICES FOR THE PLAYER.
    No need to be an ass. Old topic gets simple answer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alipoprocks View Post
    No need to be an ass. Old topic gets simple answer.
    When you shut down a question posed by someone with a single dismissive sentence, it's rude (and attaching "sorry" at the end doesn't make it any less). Don't get upset when someone replies back with the same carelessness towards the poster as you.

    They were asking why we couldn't have jobs or areas of the game with comparable depth, not asking for a carbon copy of PUP or XI mechanics to be implemented into the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by saeedaisspecial View Post
    They were asking why we couldn't have jobs or areas of the game with comparable depth, not asking for a carbon copy of PUP or XI mechanics to be implemented into the game.
    Thank you for understanding.
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    Quote Originally Posted by saeedaisspecial View Post
    When you shut down a question posed by someone with a single dismissive sentence, it's rude (and attaching "sorry" at the end doesn't make it any less). Don't get upset when someone replies back with the same carelessness towards the poster as you.

    They were asking why we couldn't have jobs or areas of the game with comparable depth, not asking for a carbon copy of PUP or XI mechanics to be implemented into the game.
    Carelessness is not the same as name calling. Just saying - big difference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by saeedaisspecial View Post
    When you shut down a question posed by someone with a single dismissive sentence, it's rude (and attaching "sorry" at the end doesn't make it any less). Don't get upset when someone replies back with the same carelessness towards the poster as you.

    They were asking why we couldn't have jobs or areas of the game with comparable depth, not asking for a carbon copy of PUP or XI mechanics to be implemented into the game.
    Exactly why I wrote out what I wrote out instead of one sentence. Yet hes the one calling ppl an ass.
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    Quote Originally Posted by saeedaisspecial View Post
    This is X not Y is a terrible reason for not adding in interesting mechanics/depth to the game.
    Seriously people who reply like this are stupid.

    There is a huge outcry by lots of people for more depth in all areas of the game, from gear, to jobs, to the open world, to monster AI. BUT NOPE THIS IS XIV SO WE CAN'T HAVE THAT NOT AT ALL XIV DOESN'T ACCOMMODATE TO CHANGE OR CHOICES FOR THE PLAYER.
    Hey man, I think baseball would be much better if they added full contact to the sport. Allow the players to keep the bat when they run the bases and give all the players on the field body armor! It would add much more depth and skill to try and avoid getting hit by the player and catch a ball in full plate armor. and dont say my idea is stupid just because "This is baseball, not X" because this would add interesting depth/mechanics to the game! That and I might actually start to watch baseball because currently I am not interested in it so if the MLB want to actually get some hardcore fans they need to add this in the game. Oh and let them use steroids. have a separate league where people are allowed to juice so we can see how far we can push the human potential!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MageBlack View Post
    Hey man, I think baseball would be much better if they added full contact to the sport. Allow the players to keep the bat when they run the bases and give all the players on the field body armor! It would add much more depth and skill to try and avoid getting hit by the player and catch a ball in full plate armor. and dont say my idea is stupid just because "This is baseball, not X" because this would add interesting depth/mechanics to the game! That and I might actually start to watch baseball because currently I am not interested in it so if the MLB want to actually get some hardcore fans they need to add this in the game. Oh and let them use steroids. have a separate league where people are allowed to juice so we can see how far we can push the human potential!
    Changing the entire game of baseball vs implementing a job/design choice which would add minor complexity to a small portion of the game.
    Terrible analogy.
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