Why can't we have jobs with this level of depth and customization in FFXIV?

[Rhas]

And it's NOT only a year old. YoshiP has been on the project for a short time, but the game has been in development\reconstruction\planning\etc for over half a decade now. They really can't use the "it's brand, spanking new" excuse when they have almost 15 years experience in building mmos. The complexity should have been there from the start because you always want to improve upon your last project, and if nothing else, should certainly be working its way in there now, 5 years into the endeavor.

Except that when it failed big time, they threw out the old game engine and recreated it to be more flexible with the new direction they were taking. I'm sorry, but when you create a brand new game engine, it is new. They are still learning all the "ins and outs" of it. The new game engine was built with a certain focus and direction and you can't use hindsight to say certain abilities should have been in there in the first place.


How about you try creating a new game engine then 1 year down the line everyone playing your game says you should have known better to add this and that when you were writing the code for it in the first place. Hindsight is *always* 100% but, not everyone has the same thought process. It probably wasn't put in *because* the people developing it can't think of every possible situation and outcome that can possibly ever come up. They quickly restructured the game the best they could and got it out back to us players as fast as they possibly could and all you can do is complain that they should have known better and added this or that or any other thing.

[Tupsi]

Except that when it failed big time, they threw out the old game engine

Incorrect - The Crystal Tools engine was (and still is) used at SE, but Luminous is the one taking over at present time. They didn't "throw it out." They did what they did with FFXI, create an engine specifically for ARR.

but when you create a brand new game engine, it is new.

I don't think you know much about this area if you think this lol.

They are still learning all the "ins and outs" of it.

They know the "ins and outs" as it's a branched version of the Luminous Engine, something already been used within SE for a time now. ARR is "new", but most systems have been in XIV since 2010.

[RiverTams]

If this game turns anymore into XI its going to drop so many subs.

XI was just an awful game.

[Aegis]

XI was just the most successful game in Square Enix's history.

Fixed that for you

[Exstal]

It takes time for things to be developed. That's why.

[Risvertasashi]

It takes time for things to be developed. That's why.

There's been no hint there will ever be anything like this in XIV. But if we let the devs know it's something we'd like to see...

If this game turns anymore into XI its going to drop so many subs.

XI was just an awful game.

Again, I don't want XI-2. Please read my previous posts and original post.

[Exstal]

There's been no hint there will ever be anything like this in XIV. But if we let the devs know it's something we'd like to see...

I'm sure there was a very small hint of Automoton when XI first launched in Japan as well. We can only hope it'll happen.

been about 4 years now. This games direction is pretty much set in stone.

Casual duty finder theme park with a bunch of one shot mechanics and a gear treadmill.

I didn't realize ARR was released for 4 years already. Boy, how time flies!

[Risvertasashi]

I'm sure there was a very small hint of Automoton when XI first launched in Japan as well. We can only hope it'll happen.

No. We can do more than hope. If enough people agree, we can let the devs know it's something we would like to see happen.

[Sapphic]

I didn't realize ARR was released for 4 years already. Boy, how time flies!

It only seems like a couple aof weeks ago that they celebrated 1 year!

Some cant get over that FFXIV ARR is a totally different game to FFXIV 1.x.

On topic, it is very hard to have deeply complex jobs/classes without a) making them a necessity and b) unwanted for most content. Something FFXI failed badly on. So many jobs, and so many of them not wanted compared to a small number of mandatory jobs, eg BRD and stun SCH.

Also, as happened even with FFXI, more depth came with expansions. So see what 3.0 brings. Yoshi stated prior to the expac they will not be doing anything really different or new frmo the standard design, that may change with the xpac.

[Tupsi]

It only seems like a couple aof weeks ago that they celebrated 1 year!

Some cant get over that FFXIV ARR is a totally different game to FFXIV 1.x.

You do realize majority of ARR's systems originated in 1.0-1.22..right? The only "difference" is how it's impelemented in certain areas, otherwise no, it's not totally different - if you touched any of the jobs that isn't ACN/SMN/SCH, you're playing something that was created and existed up to 4 years ago. Even ACN was already in the game but not usable for players.

Them streamlining certain content doesn't mean it's "compeletly different", a lot of the lore is still very much the same, just reformatted to fit the "5 years later".