Why can't we have jobs with this level of depth and customization in FFXIV?

[MageBlack]

Changing the entire game of baseball vs implementing a job/design choice which would add minor complexity to a small portion of the game.
Terrible analogy.

In case you missed it I was being a little bit satirical. I'm not against adding in a bit more depth and stabilizability to the jobs, In fact Yoshi-P has mentioned he might overhaul the armory system for 3.0 because of issues in trying to create more jobs and the uselessness of classes once you get the job.

My post was more poking fun at your comment. There are better ways of getting your point across then using ALL CAPS OR SAYING SOMEONE IS STUPID IF THEY DONT AGREE. Take care!

[Riviere]

This is X not Y is a terrible reason for not adding in interesting mechanics/depth to the game.
Seriously people who reply like this are stupid.

Amen brother!!

[HeroSamson]

This is X not Y is a terrible reason for not adding in interesting mechanics/depth to the game.
Seriously people who reply like this are stupid.

There is a huge outcry by lots of people for more depth in all areas of the game, from gear, to jobs, to the open world, to monster AI. BUT NOPE THIS IS XIV SO WE CAN'T HAVE THAT NOT AT ALL XIV DOESN'T ACCOMMODATE TO CHANGE OR CHOICES FOR THE PLAYER.

Interesting mechanics?

They were in FFXI it's nothing new and SE wants to do something new not put stuff from a game that already exists.

[Gilthas]

Interesting mechanics?

They were in FFXI it's nothing new and SE wants to do something new not put stuff from a game that already exists.

This is where someone comes in and calls FFXIV a WoW clone.

Personally, the most important thing in a game for me is how fun it is to play. It being original or not has little importance to me.

[HeroSamson]

This is where someone comes in and calls FFXIV a WoW clone.

Personally, the most important thing in a game for me is how fun it is to play. It being original or not has little importance to me.

Yeah I know they will say then why make FFXIV like WoW.

Also if they did make puppet, the puppet will be weak as all hell, its not gonna be as strong as ffxi's puppet, just like yoshi said before if they was to give wyvern back to dragoon it would be weak.

So would the puppet and the puppet wouldn't be the same as XI's either it would be totally different and after finding out they wouldn't play the job making it a waste of a slot for a better class.

[saeedaisspecial]

Interesting mechanics?

They were in FFXI it's nothing new and SE wants to do something new not put stuff from a game that already exists.

"Interesting mechanics already exist."
"XIV is not going to do something that already exists"
"Therefore XIV will not have interesting mechanics."
Fun game.

[HeroSamson]

"Interesting mechanics already exist."
"XIV is not going to do something that already exists"
"Therefore XIV will not have interesting mechanics."
Fun game.

So if you played FFXI my question to you is if you feel this way, why Leave FFXI? You came to FFXIV for something new right, so why do you want the same stuff that you left from?

I mean why leave FFXI if you want the same thing, no point in that.

This game hasn't even got a first expansion and yeah it is a fun game.

[BloodPact]

This is X not Y is a terrible reason for not adding in interesting mechanics/depth to the game.
Seriously people who reply like this are stupid.

There is a huge outcry by lots of people for more depth in all areas of the game, from gear, to jobs, to the open world, to monster AI. BUT NOPE THIS IS XIV SO WE CAN'T HAVE THAT NOT AT ALL XIV DOESN'T ACCOMMODATE TO CHANGE OR CHOICES FOR THE PLAYER.

You know what's also terrible? Comparing a system with jobs with abilities up to level 99 that has had like a decade to be polished (and still balance is nowhere near as it is in XIV) to a much newer system that is capped at 50 currently.

When someone comes and references Final Fantasy XI's accomplishments IN THE SAME TIME FRAME that XIV has had to develop then I'll take any of these posts seriously.

[Magis]

You know what's also terrible? Comparing a system with jobs with abilities up to level 99 that has had like a decade to be polished (and still balance is nowhere near as it is in XIV) to a much newer system that is capped at 50 currently.

When someone comes and references Final Fantasy XI's accomplishments IN THE SAME TIME FRAME that XIV has had to develop then I'll take any of these posts seriously.

Wasn't PUP (the job being compared to) released in Treasures of Aht Urhgan Expansion which was still lvl 75? It was released in 2006 btw, way before even FFXIV 1.0 was created so what are you talking about? Also... a game MADE BY SE, had a decade to be polished and seen what works and doesn't... and then most of the experience gathered from creating it is ignored when ARR was being made. It's not like XIV 1.0 and ARR was their first MMO.

[Felis]

Wasn't PUP (the job being compared to) released in Treasures of Aht Urhgan Expansion which was still lvl 75? It was released in 2006 btw, way before even FFXIV 1.0 was created so what are you talking about? Also... a game MADE BY SE, had a decade to be polished and seen what works and doesn't... and then most of the experience gathered from creating it is ignored when ARR was being made. It's not like XIV 1.0 and ARR was their first MMO.

Your argument would be ok if SE just copied XI instead to program another FF MMO with another mechanics and battle system. In a new MMO simple classes/jobs come first as a basic of the game. Complex classes/jobs come later. Like a strawberry cake. You bake thirst the bottom before you add the strawberries. Then the icing and the cream at least. You don't bake the bottom with the strawberries just because you did another strawberry cake before it already.