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  1. #11
    Player
    Krindor's Avatar
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    Character
    U'tyada Tia
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 67
    Quote Originally Posted by LukeyP666 View Post
    That isn't bugging, that's you not holding it properly. Just stand with your back to it so you aren't auto-attacking it and use Flash to keep it on you.
    Like I mentioned this only happens once in a while, about 1/10 where Spiny spawns with a regular aggro table and does insist on sticking to a healer which probably does not work as intended, I don't know how much aggro it has on engage so that it's possible for tanks to keep it, flash's 1000 aggro isn't enough to keep the spiny of healers if it would have a regular aggro table, I don't know exactly how healers enmity works, but I guess it's potency based like everything else which makes 3 non-crit cures generate more aggro than a flash and as a warrior we have 3-4 flashes until the mana is gone meaning that at best it's possible to keep spiny for 9-12 heals.
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  2. #12
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    Drtoxicmedica's Avatar
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    Character
    Tatsu Masumi
    World
    Malboro
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 70
    Even if it picks a healer with a fresh medica 2 going out I still hold aggro. Just flash till your empty if your a warrior and then let the mt put a combo into it. If you really want to have butchers block proc\\\\'d voke then hit it. If your in a pug or party finder group it\\\\'s never a bad Idea to play it safe. Same with mog ex, if in duty finder just voke then shield lob don\\\\'t even have to moe much and it\\\\'s safer
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  3. #13
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    monochromicorn's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Rika Shinozaki'
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 55
    what i would normally do on spiny, if i start with it, i voke it while its on the outer portion of the arena, or shield lob, comes straight to me, and i will do one or 2 hate combos on it. if i am mt, i will voke it and finish my combo on it. it generates enough hate to keep it on me until garuda goes up, and i dont do a lot of damage to it.
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  4. #14
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    Sakasa's Avatar
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Character
    Sakasa Kuro
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Armorer Lv 58
    On the King thing since technically you shouldnt be attacking the king per say the swap should work with out a hitch with just a provoke so they are out of the middle of the arena. On that note I don't trust that either and I put storm's path on the king before every tackle so if the other tank is not swapping while the King's singing animation is up a shield lob or tomahawk will be needed.

    On the plume it doesn't exactly work by enmity table assignment on Garuda's table because every time I mt run Ex I get the feather on me at least once I think that is because it spawns behind me in my tank zone and since I do not use overpower or sc in that fight as mt it might override the mechanic if some one face checks it before interaction from another or its auto assignment occurs.
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  5. #15
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    Sessurea's Avatar
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    Character
    Lanfear Sessurea
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 60
    Lucky you, I been bashing my head in DF for weeks. Half the partys in DF are so bad, they start trying to pass themselves off as trolls after a while. Warrior w/o provoke anyone? Absolute silence when u ask dps who will babysit blm/whm? I queue for it as dps and as healer sometimes. Nope, always mess ups. People aren't even trying to identify what exactly went wrong....

    I'm almost at the point of just buying this fight, but the people on odin who sell runs love to price these fights toward people who buy gil. Really, 1m for mog? brb laughing.
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  6. #16
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    RhazeCain's Avatar
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    Character
    Rhaze Cain
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    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Sessurea View Post
    I'm almost at the point of just buying this fight, but the people on odin who sell runs love to price these fights toward people who buy gil. Really, 1m for mog? brb laughing.
    To get off on a side topic...
    A: "Hey team, come help me sell Mog fight!"
    B: "How much are we making?"
    A: "1m divided 7 ways"
    B: "hmm, no thanks, I'll keep doing what I'm doing"

    As a point of comparison, a single Savage Might IV materia can sell for over 500k on Behemoth. Assuming your server is similar, then you can reasonably make 1m in a (kinda long) day's farming. Two days if you're unlucky. Or way more if you invest in higher ilvl items to convert.

    Bottom line: The folks selling runs can usually do most encounters (of the ones for sale) for the same amount of effort. So selling an "easy" run for small amount of money is just a waste of time.

    That said, people should just join a group that will regularly do such things together instead of buying. FC, LS, static, etc. If you don't, then even once past Mog there will just be another encounter in the same situation - might as well just stop here.
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    Last edited by RhazeCain; 09-13-2014 at 06:20 AM.

  7. #17
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    subteraneanbird's Avatar
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    Character
    Kurara Mamegano
    World
    Malboro
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Sakasa View Post
    On the King thing since technically you shouldnt be attacking the king per say the swap should work with out a hitch with just a provoke so they are out of the middle of the arena. On that note I don't trust that either and I put storm's path on the king before every tackle so if the other tank is not swapping while the King's singing animation is up a shield lob or tomahawk will be needed.

    On the plume it doesn't exactly work by enmity table assignment on Garuda's table because every time I mt run Ex I get the feather on me at least once I think that is because it spawns behind me in my tank zone and since I do not use overpower or sc in that fight as mt it might override the mechanic if some one face checks it before interaction from another or its auto assignment occurs.
    Spiny starts with 10000 aggro on either a random player or whoever it spots first. Which usually ends up being random anyways.
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