Hunt Mob Entitlement?

[Duelle]

When I hear the word "entitlement", I think of poor-sport casuals that are too afraid to compete with other players in the open world. They will whine and cry and protest to the developers to change the entire nature of the game, so that they can win.

The "Hunt" is what it is for a reason.it means get out there and LOOK! not leech off of other people's findings through an LS and expect 50 people to wait on you and your potato of a computer to zone in.

Except the side activity the Hunt was meant to be became the only way to get allied seals, which in turn is the only way outside of coil to get sands and oil of time (RNG ST drops notwithstanding).

In the end, some have opted to show common courtesy instead of being cutthroat about it. Pray that SE places the alternate progression means back in dungeons and tomestones for the next patch, that way you can do hunts as you want instead of dragging down a ton of other people who simply want to gear up.

[Nalien]

In the end, some have opted to show common courtesy instead of being cutthroat about it.

I wouldn't say people are being cutthroat about it, just a fair number of people (myself included) simply do not enjoy downing a mob meant for a full party at the most with the entire server. I've soloed (most of) an A rank before, and that was fun. Low manning these things is fun. I absolutely abhor the massive zerg rush A and S ranks usually are. I'm playing to enjoy myself, not to sacrifice fun so everyone can get credit. Oh, and I'm not going "There's a group of people around a Hunt, guess I'll pull", I'm going "There's a Hunt mob with nobody around it, guess I'll solo it".

Rewards really need to be adjusted and the number of mobs needs to be increased (return Bs to how they used to be, have 3 Bs per zone, 2 As and 1 S). Currently my only solid means of getting Allied Seals is through the Daily/Weekly marks, and that's just a whooping 274 Seals/week. Purely for vanity I need 10480, which is what? 38 weeks? Ducking ridiculous, and all because nobody at SE had the forethought to plan out the rewards properly.

Hunts were rushed out, horribly balanced, and overall just a mess. The content just gives me a headache at the moment.

[sayafrost]

With the hunts (havent done them decently yet, due being on ps3) I did 5 A ranks, because i stumbled upon them while they started (or lets face it they fall on my head while I do mining or something like that). For me it's laggy, never got a full reward on it because I dont want to drag down people with my laggines, so till I get new connection and ps4 I will not be doing them actively even if omg i want that gear like crazy for my summoner. (I keep doing the dailies and weeklies)

What I hate the most of the hunts is the drama that happens in the shouts! its hunts, for me it's first come first served? People complaining after the thing was up for 5 minutes and the people actually waited, be faster or don't hunt at all. I know with my loading screens and coming there it would take me ages, I try to arrive but that's it.

When I hunt the Bs i shout to ask if anyone else needs it, if not I just take it down, if yes, I tell them where I am and wait for them to come. Simple.

[Raze_Krauser]

In the end, some have opted to show common courtesy instead of being cutthroat about it.

Well that pretty much it, and i agree.....but you are NOT 'entitled' to that courtesy...it's given, not taken.

[ruskie]

I even more love it when you are the first party on the spot(you found it). You wait a few seconds for a few more people to come in and then pull it. And someone(who wasn't even there) just starts shouting for reseting and about damn ninjas etc... So yeah I only share A ranks with FC and LSs(I don't have a hunt LS). S ranks I will shout out and share in FC and LSs as well. B ranks now a days I just shout out in the zone. I especially love when people that have not found it start shouting when they will pull. That generally signals for us to pull it on the spot.

[wicked-one]

Nono, not negative, Ninjas are cool.

Wait for 2.4, everybody then wants to be one.

[Zephyranthes]

Ninja-ing is just a term that a group killed a hunt w/o telling anybody else. I personally don't see anything wrong with it, it's just a word used to describe the activity.

[GalkaBikini]

the way SE intended

Can't say I've seen SE say anything about what they intended with hunts, however, IMO if they didn't want it to be the way that it is (pro-community people with hunt LSes who announce hunt spawn locations and wait a few minutes for people to get there), then they would have made hunt mobs claimable by the initiating party and not attackable by everyone else. Instead, everyone that touches the mob gets credit and even a chance for a blood-splattered mark log to drop. Because of this, I personally see hunts as a community event and yes you should announce locations to people and give a short time for people to get there. You really don't have to wait that long, word travels across the server pretty quickly and it typically doesn't take long to reach a hunt mob's location. Fast pulling IMO is anti-community and detrimental to the server and I don't know why a person wouldn't care about that. HOWEVER, I certainly don't think it's OK for people to go ape-crap and flip out on people. I miss hunt marks all the time and I never say a single word.

[IndigoHawk]

There is no challenge killing A ranks (even in small groups), and there is no benefit to killing them without waiting for people to show up. Everyone can get the same rewards. Hunts reward collaboration, not competition.

Ninjas mess with other people's hunting for no reason. It's not even selfish, just mean, because there is no additional reward for being a ninja.

I agree people shouldn't get too upset, although it's annoying if you ninja and don't tell people. Then you're wasting people's time hunting just to be a jerk. Some people maintain spreadsheets to let people know where to hunt, so ninjas hurt the community effort.

So, don't be surprised if people don't like ninjas, call them out, or blacklist them.

Instead shout in area chat and wait a bit. You don't even have to be part of hunt linksehlls. Active hunters in the area will see it, notify people, and in a couple minutes people will show up. It's easy to help instead of ninja.

[Nalien]

There is no challenge killing A ranks (even in small groups), and there is no benefit to killing them without waiting for people to show up.

There's certainly challenge soloing them. One of the few instances in this game where I had to stay on my toes and pay attention, far more fun than "Wait > spam enmity skills > dead". As for no benefit to killing them without waiting? For you, maybe, but actually enjoying the content is a huge benefit in my opinion. The "wait for the whole server" mentality completely sucks the enjoyment and life out of Hunts, IMO.

At this point I kind of wish they'd just make them force popped, with pop items purchased with GC Seals. It's still technically open world content, you can go around shouting for anyone with a pop item.

I am really dreading open world Primals and FC summoning at this point. Seeing what Hunts are like, I can only imagine Primals will be worse...