Why is shield swipe so bad?

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

How about a useful effect? Pacification is extremely useless in endgame, the only reason I even use that skill is TP management, and I really only need it on certain fights. They made Presence of Mind less useless, why not Shield Swipe?

[Riepah]

If I'm tanking a boss and am way ahead in aggro generation, I'd rather start stoneskinning and using Riot Blade, myself, than use Shield Swipe. If Shield Swipe gave some sort of buff, perhaps a 10% defense increase for 10 seconds or something, it'd become worth using.

[Gilthas]

If I'm tanking a boss and am way ahead in aggro generation, I'd rather start stoneskinning and using Riot Blade, myself, than use Shield Swipe. If Shield Swipe gave some sort of buff, perhaps a 10% defense increase for 10 seconds or something, it'd become worth using.

I'd argue against making Shield Swipe give a good buff without how the ability is activated being redesigned. Give it a good buff and PLDs could probably have it up indefinitely by using a shield with a high block rate. That's why it currently makes sense to have the ability cause a status effect that a mob can build resistance to.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Wars have maim and storms path and eye that they can keep up indefinitely...

[Gilthas]

Wars have maim and storms path and eye that they can keep up indefinitely...

*rolls eyes*

And PLDs have Rage of Halone debuff and overall better defensive cooldowns, each job has it's own thing. That's a really silly way to make an argument for Shield Swipe to give 10% damage reduction for 10 seconds, which is better than what Foresight gives, an ability that's on a 2 minute cooldown and that lasts for 20 seconds.

[Riepah]

*rolls eyes*

And PLDs have Rage of Halone debuff and overall better defensive cooldowns, each job has it's own thing. That's a really silly way to make an argument for Shield Swipe to give 10% damage reduction for 10 seconds, which is better than what Foresight gives, an ability that's on a 2 minute cooldown and that lasts for 20 seconds.

I said "defense increase", not "damage reduction". So it would only be half of what Foresight gives.

[Gilthas]

I said "defense increase", not "damage reduction". So it would only be half of what Foresight gives.

My bad then.

Though, being that the case, you're basically saying that Shield Swipe would become useful if it gave roughly a 2.5% damage reduction for 10 seconds? Something tells me it would still be considered useless given how awesome people think Foresight is.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

*rolls eyes*

And PLDs have Rage of Halone debuff and overall better defensive cooldowns, each job has it's own thing. That's a really silly way to make an argument for Shield Swipe to give 10% damage reduction for 10 seconds, which is better than what Foresight gives, an ability that's on a 2 minute cooldown and that lasts for 20 seconds.

I didn't say which buff or debuff to give it, was only in response to you saying it would be unfair for pld to have a buff they could keep up indefinitely.

Hell, they could make it increase heals recieved for all i care, kinda like what aegis boon used to do, in a way.

Edit. Actually, just make it Aegis Boon.

Problem solved.

[TouchandFeel]

I'm in the camp of its meh, not terrible but not very good either.
I agree that pacification becomes somewhat pointless in endgame due to it being resisted but I do like to cycle it in to my attacks for the very slight dps boost.

If I were to do anything to it, I would have it play up its tp management useage and remove the tp cost and maybe have it actually regain a small amount of tp. That way in a long fight you could cycle it in to replenish your tp or at least not drain it.

[stoxastic]

Shield Swipe is a TP management skill happens to deal slightly more damage than the average RoH combo.

If I didn't have Shield Swipe I would run out of TP standing there tanking Melusine in t7. When my static's dps was on the low side in t8 Shield Swipe would help conserve TP so I wouldn't run out before the boss started casting brainjacks.

It's a good skill and definitely useful in certain situations.