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  1. #21
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    Loody's Avatar
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    Syrcaid Talforn
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    Leviathan
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    I haven't seen it often, but I haven't been in any party that requires it. So correlation/causation I guess.

    What would be nice to see more regularly however, is monks that actually use mantra.
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  2. #22
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    AttacKat's Avatar
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    Attackat Muaddib
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    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Sartori View Post
    Whats the story with your heals and raises? Do you guys not have them on your bar or are you just not interested in healing or raising people?
    Why did you die in the first place?
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  3. #23
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    Alipoprocks's Avatar
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    Sam Witch
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    Balmung
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    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by echoica View Post
    I think you read me wrong I meant upgraded gear from doing hunts not running hunts. I'm talking about doing those things in dungeons :P
    OMG, people do that in dungeons?? Yeah, I totally thought you were complaining that healers do that while hunting.
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  4. #24
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    Risvertasashi's Avatar
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    Makani Risvertasashi
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    Ultros
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Sartori View Post
    Whats the story with your heals and raises? Do you guys not have them on your bar or are you just not interested in healing or raising people?

    Enlighten me
    As a WHM I get to use one spell every 2.5 seconds. That spell has a 2 second or so lead time, plus I also have to dodge. Res is very expensive and if you're going to have brink of death, it's probably not worth me spending 768+266+133 MP minimum (not to mention all those GCDs) to get you back on your feet, just to die again.

    Now your turn. What's the story with your dodging and pulling aggro? Can you not see the ground circles and hate meters or are you just not interested in staying alive? :P
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    Last edited by Risvertasashi; 09-05-2014 at 02:19 AM.

  5. #25
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    gornotck's Avatar
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    Bunni Stormjaeger
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    Faerie
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    Thaumaturge Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Sartori View Post
    Whats the story with your heals and raises? Do you guys not have them on your bar or are you just not interested in healing or raising people?

    Enlighten me
    As a Black Mage, it is the sad truth that no matter how much fire and ice I cast at your sleeping form, you won't wake up. Eventually the smell gets to people, though, especially after a lot of Firestarter inspired Fire III bursts.
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  6. #26
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    Bleizahr's Avatar
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    Bleizahr Grehimalsyn
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    Phoenix
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    Conjurer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Sartori View Post
    Whats the story with your heals and raises?
    We're just waiting for ballad.
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  7. #27
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    SummonerSenah's Avatar
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    Senah Kha
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Sartori View Post
    Whats the story with your heals and raises? Do you guys not have them on your bar or are you just not interested in healing or raising people?

    Enlighten me
    .

    The main stat for SMN and BLM is intelligence, not mind. I have physick on my hotbars for both jobs but it's not wise to rely on us for healing due to the low potency of our heals. BLM can't cross class any raise spells so there's that.

    On WHM or SCH if I'm not healing you it's probably because you're a bard and running around like a chicken with your head cut off (aka kiting) and I can't target you. Also I have names turned off so sometimes I just don't notice dead people.

    This of course is in the outside world. In dungeons you're in my party so I'll be healing. Unless we're in Alliance A for Scylla, in which case I'm probably frozen.
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  8. #28
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    Saccharin's Avatar
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    Blue Kitty
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    Moogle
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    Conjurer Lv 84
    Quote Originally Posted by Sartori View Post
    Whats the story with your heals and raises? Do you guys not have them on your bar or are you just not interested in healing or raising people?

    Enlighten me
    I'm not wasting my limited mana on a raise every time you die.

    If we all wipe I'm not running back and raising you. Move your lazy arse.
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  9. #29
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    Maero's Avatar
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    I'shtola Maqa
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    Leviathan
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by lyricmacabre View Post
    On a side note: I LOVE summoners that go out of their way to raise people.
    Ooh then i would get commendations?
    I have raise on my hotbar as summoner and do raise players to help out
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  10. #30
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    TouchandFeel's Avatar
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    Vespereaux Vaillantes
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    Exodus
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 91
    @Echoica

    I know exactly what you mean, I see this all the time when I am tanking ex roulette and it can be very frustrating.

    I don't mind if a healer goes cleric stance and dpses as long as they are not slacking on their primary role. If my health is constantly dropping to around 10% in a fight and I'm having to pop all my defensive CD's to just stay alive during a trash pull, there is a problem.

    Also I am really starting to get sick of WHM's that use Fluid Aura to knock back the primary target mob that I am tanking and have aggro on. Don't make the melee tank chase targets, part of our job is positioning targets and knocking them away makes that part of our job more difficult.

    This also tends to lead to my favorite tanking situation, where I have a whm spamming holy and the two dps are single targeting different mobs, neither of which are the mob that I marked as he primary target to focus on.

    Another thing that I feel more healers and dps need to realize is that a tank popping CD's takes away from their time to build agro. When a CD is used your character plays an animation and if you are popping more than one it plays them back to back, so if you are popping 2 together such as FoF and Bloodbath, together the time lost is approx around 2 or so seconds which equates to a gcd cycle which is one less flash or other aggro gainer going out. Most of the time this will not be an issue, by it should still be taken into consideration, especially during the initial part of a pull/fight.

    As for rezzes in dungeons, if it is after a fight I don't think it is a big deal since sometimes it is more quick or efficient to just return and run back to the group.

    Really its not just clueless or lazy high ilvl healers that I run into, but every role and you better not not question anyone on why they are or are not doing something that is obviously not working because then you get labeled as an "elitist douche" and are told to "stfu" because they "know what they are doing".

    /end rant

    p.s. isn't this thread more appropriate for the Healers section of the forums?
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    Last edited by TouchandFeel; 09-05-2014 at 02:51 AM.

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