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    Player MilesSaintboroguh's Avatar
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    Miles Saintborough
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    So in a nutshell:


    "WAAAAAAAHHHH STOP UNDERCUTTING US!!! WE CAN'T MAKE MONEY!!!"


    You should keep undercutting them, even if it's 1 gil per relist. I get undercut all the time, so I either undercut even lower or just remove the item and try again later. All this gil people want to be so greedy for and there's barely much to spend it on.
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    wicked-one's Avatar
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    Azul Earendil
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    Interesting, some people really must be bored out of their lifes...

    Their justification sounds lame too me, and i don´t know why they even care, if someone undercuts so he drops his item with no profit - well go ahead, ruin yourself. It´s not like real life wouldn´t work the same way.

    It´s this usual "me first and the gimme gimme" mentality that makes me...



    Sad story, but it wont hurt me in any way....

    PS: Obviously, this should be reported in any cause via InGame Ticket...
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    silentwindfr's Avatar
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    Florence Leduc
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    it's nothing different that harassement, it's not borderlines... since they try to affect the gaming experience of the other.
    undercutting even if it's....well annoying, are part of the game. they try to use power they don't have, only SE have any right over the market, they have.... the right ot sell them stuff at which price they want that all. they don't have the right to try to control the price of the other.

    anyway, what bother me is more the fact that they know your servant name. if you don't tell them, they can't know who belong the servant. then i'm curious to know how they did find out who belong which servant. and how work them....watcher stuff.

    anyway, kids nowaday don't know how make them look important, if they are too.... insistant and begin to be really harassing... contact gm that can be fun to see them ls disband and them receive warning for this sort of action.
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    Player MilesSaintboroguh's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by silentwindfr View Post
    it's nothing different that harassement, it's not borderlines... since they try to affect the gaming experience of the other.
    undercutting even if it's....well annoying, are part of the game. they try to use power they don't have, only SE have any right over the market, they have.... the right ot sell them stuff at which price they want that all. they don't have the right to try to control the price of the other.

    anyway, what bother me is more the fact that they know your servant name. if you don't tell them, they can't know who belong the servant. then i'm curious to know how they did find out who belong which servant. and how work them....watcher stuff.

    People can look up an item's sale history and see a list of recent buyers and what prices the item sold for.
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    Captnyan Meowpants
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    Cartels only work when either everyone agrees to it, or everyone is compelled to agree in the face of consequences. In real life many jurisdictions have laws against this often referred to as anti-competitive behavior, but I don't see how this could possibly work unless its on items or services with a very high barrier of entry. They shouldn't be punished because being unbelievably stupid about economics and failing shouldn't be punishable.

    He could also just be trolling you silly, lol at the idea of crafter unions.
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    Kaya Solimar
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    It'd be so easy to ruin them. Oh, you undercut me because i undercut you? Here, let me HALF the price, and keep making more and more of them, and post them at that price. Sooner or later they'll give up.
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    How did they know it's your retainer?

    In any case, I would ignore them and go on with my life / playstyle. If they continue to send you messages like that, I would suggest reporting them for harassment and threatening.
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    Mint Chocolate
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    This is on a whole new level of ridiculous. Do people really have nothing better to do than go on a witch hunt over undercutting?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zephyranthes View Post
    How did they know it's your retainer?

    In any case, I would ignore them and go on with my life / playstyle. If they continue to send you messages like that, I would suggest reporting them for harassment and threatening.
    A lot of crafted items have the crafter's name on the item.
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    Asny Rak'nys
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    Ohhhh this wants to make me roll up a char on excal and have some fun - I won't though cause my time is more valuable doing more meaningful things... like watching grass grow.
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    Akos Talon
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    I usually sweep out the low gil items on the market before I sell something. Might as well turn their undercutting into my profit. I figure that most of the time people selling things for that cheap mostly just wanted to get crap out of their inventory anyway, so I'm really doing them a favor. Everyone wins~
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