What-if Ruin was an Auto-attack

[AniCelestine]

isnt ruin potency 110 due to maim and mend?

Garuda's main spell is 100potency and it hits (on my smn i106 about 250-260 and my ruins hits 230-240. So that would imply no. Unless we consider that garuda gets the buff also, but I don't remember what maim and mend trait does so I can't really tell.

[Judge_Xero]

SMNs don't AA while casting. Which is why they spam Ruin2 while in melee range for the DPS buff.

I just wish I didn't have to turn AA on and it was automatic like a melee job.

I'm not sure when it changed, but I seem to AA while casting now.

I agree about AA though. I put the AA skill on my bar cause right clicking on the mob got annoying. Another indication of AA would be nice too, as it's hard to tell on tall bosses.

[skaterger]

I'm not sure when it changed, but I seem to AA while casting now.

I agree about AA though. I put the AA skill on my bar cause right clicking on the mob got annoying. Another indication of AA would be nice too, as it's hard to tell on tall bosses.

You can actually right click on the mob's hp/aggro bar and you only need to click on it once throughout the entire fight even if you move out of melee range and back in again. The only time you need to reclick is if you switch targets.

[Judge_Xero]

You can actually right click on the mob's hp/aggro bar and you only need to click on it once throughout the entire fight even if you move out of melee range and back in again. The only time you need to reclick is if you switch targets.

Too much effort for me lol. I end up clicking off the mob by accident. Although I haven't tried clicking the aggro bar.

Most fights I have to switch targets unfortunately.

Thanks though.

[Madoka]

You should be using contagion when its up, and only using M2 if you use contagion. You shouldn't be needing to "retreat to a safe distance" either, already be standing where you should be. Swiftcast shadow flare and buff pet while you're on CD from that and you won't waste any time. Even without contagion you should be getting at least 4 ruins in before needing to reapply any dots

[AniCelestine]

..Even without contagion you should be getting at least 4 ruins in before needing to reapply any dots

That. And also, on your "reapply" part. You say you're buffing your pet again, but if you used both Rouse and Spur on 1st DoTs you wouldn't have either off CD yet.

I'd suggest that you should go on internet and google some summoner guide(s) (can't say rotation, cause there really isn't one after the "opener rotation"). If you want to get a bit better at dpsing on summoner that is.

[Sen_Terrechant]

You should be using contagion when its up, and only using M2 if you use contagion. You shouldn't be needing to "retreat to a safe distance" either, already be standing where you should be. Swiftcast shadow flare and buff pet while you're on CD from that and you won't waste any time. Even without contagion you should be getting at least 4 ruins in before needing to reapply any dots

Also this. M2 is only ever a DPS increase if you can contagion it or if there is more then one mob, otherwise a Ruin has 10 potency over it.

[Bigcat9715]

So... ninja SMN nerf for good SMN players? Look, i understand there are a lot of bad SMN out there, its proved everytime i venture on the forums but seriously......



Also this. M2 is only ever a DPS increase if you can contagion it or if there is more then one mob, otherwise a Ruin has 10 potency over it.

I see where your coming from I'll try to keep Miasma 2 to mobs and contagion. More Ruin less miasma 2 cool. What about Ruin 2? I never find a use for it.

[Sen_Terrechant]

I see where your coming from I'll try to keep Miasma 2 to mobs and contagion. More Ruin less miasma 2 cool. What about Ruin 2? I never find a use for it.

Ruin II is great when you can sustain the mana to fit in autos buut in most endgame fights you will be amazingly mana starved if you just spam Ruin II.
Its real use is before you use an off-GCD (aka before you use Fester drop a RuinII so the GCD is cooling down while you use the off GCD. Same applies to the pet buffs.)

[SirTaint]

So... ninja SMN nerf for good SMN players? Look, i understand there are a lot of bad SMN out there, its proved everytime i venture on the forums but seriously......



Also this. M2 is only ever a DPS increase if you can contagion it or if there is more then one mob, otherwise a Ruin has 10 potency over it.

Or the mob is about to jump. Besides Nael.