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  1. #21
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    skaterger's Avatar
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    Joanna Selenia
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    Tonberry
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Judge_Xero View Post
    I'm not sure when it changed, but I seem to AA while casting now.

    I agree about AA though. I put the AA skill on my bar cause right clicking on the mob got annoying. Another indication of AA would be nice too, as it's hard to tell on tall bosses.
    You can actually right click on the mob's hp/aggro bar and you only need to click on it once throughout the entire fight even if you move out of melee range and back in again. The only time you need to reclick is if you switch targets.
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  2. #22
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    Judge_Xero's Avatar
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    Divine Gate
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    Exodus
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    Marauder Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by skaterger View Post
    You can actually right click on the mob's hp/aggro bar and you only need to click on it once throughout the entire fight even if you move out of melee range and back in again. The only time you need to reclick is if you switch targets.
    Too much effort for me lol. I end up clicking off the mob by accident. Although I haven't tried clicking the aggro bar.

    Most fights I have to switch targets unfortunately.

    Thanks though.
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  3. #23
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    AniCelestine's Avatar
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    Ani Celestine
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    Odin
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    Monk Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Zoeila View Post
    isnt ruin potency 110 due to maim and mend?
    Garuda's main spell is 100potency and it hits (on my smn i106 about 250-260 and my ruins hits 230-240. So that would imply no. Unless we consider that garuda gets the buff also, but I don't remember what maim and mend trait does so I can't really tell.
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    People need to remember that a healer's job isn't to heal HP
    but rather to prevent HP from reaching 0
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  4. #24
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    Nebulon Gumball
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    Gilgamesh
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Judge_Xero View Post
    If Ruin was an auto-attack, what would we do in-between casting our DOTs?

    I would miss the 20-30 DPS gain from smacking mobs within melee range with my book.
    I guess its just me and my dot rotation that made me want a AA ruin. My rotation goes like:

    BIO 2, Miasma, BIO, Fester/Bane, Miasma 2, Buff Pet as i retreat to a safe distance, Shadowflare.

    After i drop Shadowflare or Ruin (if i have enough time) it should be time to reapply dots, so for reapply i do:

    Bio, miasma 2, Miasma, Bio2, reapply Bio, Bane/Fester, Miasma 2 retreat while Buffing Pet then i Ruin if Shadowflare is still up.
    Rinse then repeat.

    Its a weird rotation that i came up with, but I can only ruin once or twin after my reapply rotation.
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    Last edited by Bigcat9715; 09-06-2014 at 04:45 AM.

  5. #25
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    Madoka's Avatar
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    Character
    Ayukawa Madoka
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    Excalibur
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    You should be using contagion when its up, and only using M2 if you use contagion. You shouldn't be needing to "retreat to a safe distance" either, already be standing where you should be. Swiftcast shadow flare and buff pet while you're on CD from that and you won't waste any time. Even without contagion you should be getting at least 4 ruins in before needing to reapply any dots
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  6. #26
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    AniCelestine's Avatar
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    Ani Celestine
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    Odin
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    Monk Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Madoka View Post
    ..Even without contagion you should be getting at least 4 ruins in before needing to reapply any dots
    That. And also, on your "reapply" part. You say you're buffing your pet again, but if you used both Rouse and Spur on 1st DoTs you wouldn't have either off CD yet.

    I'd suggest that you should go on internet and google some summoner guide(s) (can't say rotation, cause there really isn't one after the "opener rotation"). If you want to get a bit better at dpsing on summoner that is.
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    People need to remember that a healer's job isn't to heal HP
    but rather to prevent HP from reaching 0
    "Sent on Android device"

  7. #27
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    Sen Terrechant
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    Leviathan
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Madoka View Post
    You should be using contagion when its up, and only using M2 if you use contagion. You shouldn't be needing to "retreat to a safe distance" either, already be standing where you should be. Swiftcast shadow flare and buff pet while you're on CD from that and you won't waste any time. Even without contagion you should be getting at least 4 ruins in before needing to reapply any dots
    Also this. M2 is only ever a DPS increase if you can contagion it or if there is more then one mob, otherwise a Ruin has 10 potency over it.
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    Last edited by Sen_Terrechant; 09-07-2014 at 06:39 AM.

  8. #28
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    Sir Taint
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    Behemoth
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    Alchemist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Sen_Terrechant View Post
    So... ninja SMN nerf for good SMN players? Look, i understand there are a lot of bad SMN out there, its proved everytime i venture on the forums but seriously......



    Also this. M2 is only ever a DPS increase if you can contagion it or if there is more then one mob, otherwise a Ruin has 10 potency over it.
    Or the mob is about to jump. Besides Nael.
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  9. #29
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    James Cairn
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    Leviathan
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    Arcanist Lv 53
    Making Ruin into a auto attack would, from a design standpoint, be a terrible idea. The amount of downtime that would be added to the SMN's rotation would make the class boring and lackluster to play. Look at every DPS job in the game, Dragoon, Monk, Black Mage, Bard, and Summoner: unless the melee are out of TP (which should rarely if ever happen) or the summoner is out of mana (again, should never happen) all these classes always have something to press, which makes the game more engaging and interesting. If you took away ruin as a cast and turned it into the auto attack it would make the SMN just pure unfun to play. And considering the amount of rage I see at SMN's design in the first place, that's something that would not be healthy.
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  10. #30
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    Nebulon Gumball
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    Gilgamesh
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Sen_Terrechant View Post
    So... ninja SMN nerf for good SMN players? Look, i understand there are a lot of bad SMN out there, its proved everytime i venture on the forums but seriously......



    Also this. M2 is only ever a DPS increase if you can contagion it or if there is more then one mob, otherwise a Ruin has 10 potency over it.
    I see where your coming from I'll try to keep Miasma 2 to mobs and contagion. More Ruin less miasma 2 cool. What about Ruin 2? I never find a use for it.
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