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    I think they're unnecessary myself. If it were something simple to implement and was easily toggled on and off, maybe. However, if it were going to take any significant amount of staff or resources... uhh... no. I'd rather they focused on more meaningful content if that were the case.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azper View Post
    I think they're unnecessary myself. If it were something simple to implement and was easily toggled on and off, maybe. However, if it were going to take any significant amount of staff or resources... uhh... no. I'd rather they focused on more meaningful content if that were the case.
    The task would be done by the UI department. I can't remember anything urgent at the moment that the UI devs have to work on, other than possibly the add-ons system that has been promised since way before launch, promised a couple patches after launch and hasn't come out since. If they're still not done working on it and isn't already on last testing phase, the question would be whether they ever actually worked on it instead. Didn't see people up in arms on that. Didn't really see people up in arms when SE worked on adding glamour bikinis when they have nothing to do with gameplay either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gardes View Post
    The task would be done by the UI department. I can't remember anything urgent at the moment that the UI devs have to work on, other than possibly the add-ons system that has been promised since way before launch, promised a couple patches after launch and hasn't come out since. If they're still not done working on it and isn't already on last testing phase, the question would be whether they ever actually worked on it instead. Didn't see people up in arms on that. Didn't really see people up in arms when SE worked on adding glamour bikinis when they have nothing to do with gameplay either.
    Perfectly fine in that regard then. If the UI department are the people solely in charge of it and have nothing better to do, then so be it; chat bubbles for all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azper View Post
    I think they're unnecessary myself. If it were something simple to implement and was easily toggled on and off, maybe. However, if it were going to take any significant amount of staff or resources... uhh... no. I'd rather they focused on more meaningful content if that were the case.
    "Meaningful" is subjective. I don't think Coil is meaningful, it's just scripted and unimaginative in my eyes, but I'm sure the part of the game I enjoy the most is meaningless to most players in this forum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gardes View Post
    The task would be done by the UI department. I can't remember anything urgent at the moment that the UI devs have to work on
    They have much more urgent matters to work on than a bubble chat system. Every update that even alters or adds those little guide tips is done by the UI team - Every major update tend to add new boss elements, maybe even new elements to your menu (definitely for the new class/jobs) or in the case of 2.4, rogue/ninja stuff, that's part of the UI team as well, which is far more important.

    They said during beta the main problem is rendering and that it's largely unnecessary and will focus on using it for NPCs.

    Quote Originally Posted by Austherus View Post
    "Meaningful" is subjective.
    It is - However Coil is progression content, so you can't really say it's meaningless unless you can show me where else you get current ilvl cap gear?


    Quote Originally Posted by Tiraelina View Post
    The best part is that we already have them, for NPC's.

    It's also highly entertaining that anyone would be against them from an immersion perspective. I would find it more immersive to just read the chat over someones head in the world than stare at a chat box.
    NPCs aren't players - All they're doing is pulling up pre-scripted text in a bubble graphics every x amount of seconds/when a player is in a certain distance. That's a farcry from the constant chatter and much more rendering it'll take for hundreds of players. So it does exist for NPCs, and much easier to render since it's just pulling up dialog table entries on a set pattern.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tupsi View Post
    NPCs aren't players - All they're doing is pulling up pre-scripted text in a bubble graphics every x amount of seconds/when a player is in a certain distance. That's a farcry from the constant chatter and much more rendering it'll take for hundreds of players. So it does exist for NPCs, and much easier to render since it's just pulling up dialog table entries on a set pattern.
    Slippery slopes are not arguments.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tupsi View Post
    They have much more urgent matters to work on than a bubble chat system. Every update that even alters or adds those little guide tips is done by the UI team - Every major update tend to add new boss elements, maybe even new elements to your menu (definitely for the new class/jobs) or in the case of 2.4, rogue/ninja stuff, that's part of the UI team as well, which is far more important.
    No one is asking this to be a top priority. All we're asking for is a 'yes' and the work for it to be slotted somewhere reasonable in SE's work schedule. I wouldn't even think of trying to put this feature's importance above something like add-ons or ui elements for new jobs or raids. Take for example, hairstyles and lvl1 glamour gear. The people working on it can be put into working more on serious endgame content modelling enemies, gears, or whatever else. But they're still coming, and people are still asking. I don't think anyone is asking these to be put above something like coil or even assuming that the people asking for it are thinking that way, save for a few special cases people.

    Also, I would like to point out that name plates has the same filter feature. When you point out that having lots of people on your screen and seeing a lot of them talk with chat bubble will obstruct your view, the same can be said with name plates. Going to a mass gathering like hunts, behemoth and odin fate, your view can literally be blotted out by these name plates moving all over the place and distract you from just about anything you're trying to do in these events. But hey! You can turn off these random players's obnoxious name plates, titles, fcs from your screen! That's what we want with chat bubbles too! At this point if you just come in to the thread to repeat that you are afraid of obstruction/distraction/annoyance, you are just trying to make yourself heard while refusing to listen to others.
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