Wards full again

[Rankin]

Not everyone levels "that damn fast", so it's not pointless at all.

I'm back in-game for about two weeks now, and my highest rank is still 14. Why? I spend a lot of time exploring, crafting, goofing around, etc.

I ended up crafting my own gear, and am going to be crafting additional gear going forward (for myself and other lower level/newer players).. However, if I was able to find a good set of gear for my level at a reasonable price, I would have certainly bought them. As it is, I still need jewelry but last time I checked, prices on that was beyond stupid as well.

With guild leve bonuses and the stupid amount of sp you get off quests (got 19,000 off one) you can hit 20 in a few hours pretty dam fast in my opinion heck even a casual can do this

[Renshi]

Real mature.

Besides, If noone cared, people wouldn't be making thread upon thread upon thread arguing about it.

Yeah, but if they had an Auction House and killed MW, then people would be making thread upon thread upon thread arguing about it. Shiz don't change.
We can't tell if that's gonna happen, like we can't tell if players will accept it. But I'm sure that if they implement the Auction House, people will accept it like they accept Market Wards now. Totally sure.
As stating today, the statics in that poll are 33 YES and 43 NO for Auction House.

Also, I've used the exact level of matureness this forum's community deserves. I've always done that, and I'll always do. In fact, who cares about mature or not in these forums...

[Karbine]

Its is a big problem on selbina....even menders ward is full.

[mysterytaru]

The refusal to use the other two cities' wards is not a development issue, it's a community one. You can blame SE all you want for having a limit on retainers in wards but, in the end, it's *you* who refuses to make use of the available wards elsewhere.

[zaviermhigo]

When I say low level gear I mean below rank 30, not below rank 20. If someone wants a gear below rank 20 they can just ask me, I don't even charge for that crap. Usually cost under 2000 gil to make.

[Airget]

A simple enough question but when a retainer sells all their good do they get booted out of the ward?

As for a fix to this issue best I could think of is perhaps adding a pay for ward that can be accessed in any 3 cities, most people would flutter there to put their goods in a universal ward but those who remain in city can at least do it for free. If anything just limit how many times a person can use it like they can have their retainer at a universal ward for a 24hr period followed by a 12hr standy-by to use it agian. Then said retainer could just use a city ward and next chance they get they can claim the spot again.

While sure it's not perfect it would at least ease some congestion I would think overall by allowing wards that can be accessed in any city. To be honest it's not like the stands are useful anymore it would be nice if they could fit an idea with those to actually make them useful since the general idea was to just make your retainer stand out but now that you can see who you want with a star they are quite pointless. I wonder if they would be able to add in more retainers by removing the data from the stands and anything related to the stands such as the customization of the stand you are using and such.

[Wolfie]

Yeah, but if they had an Auction House and killed MW, then people would be making thread upon thread upon thread arguing about it. Shiz don't change.
We can't tell if that's gonna happen, like we can't tell if players will accept it. But I'm sure that if they implement the Auction House, people will accept it like they accept Market Wards now. Totally sure.
As stating today, the statics in that poll are 33 YES and 43 NO for Auction House.

Also, I've used the exact level of matureness this forum's community deserves. I've always done that, and I'll always do. In fact, who cares about mature or not in these forums...

It's an unofficial poll. The official player's polls show that people are much, much more in favor of having an AH.

And for the record, people are accepting MW because it's the ONLY trading system the game has, and it's just barely functional. It's not good by any stretch of the word and I guarantee you that virtually everybody would be switching over to an eBay/WOW/Aion/whatever style system if it was available.

[Viridiana]

A simple enough question but when a retainer sells all their good do they get booted out of the ward?

As for a fix to this issue best I could think of is perhaps adding a pay for ward that can be accessed in any 3 cities, most people would flutter there to put their goods in a universal ward but those who remain in city can at least do it for free. If anything just limit how many times a person can use it like they can have their retainer at a universal ward for a 24hr period followed by a 12hr standy-by to use it agian. Then said retainer could just use a city ward and next chance they get they can claim the spot again.

While sure it's not perfect it would at least ease some congestion I would think overall by allowing wards that can be accessed in any city. To be honest it's not like the stands are useful anymore it would be nice if they could fit an idea with those to actually make them useful since the general idea was to just make your retainer stand out but now that you can see who you want with a star they are quite pointless. I wonder if they would be able to add in more retainers by removing the data from the stands and anything related to the stands such as the customization of the stand you are using and such.

Only there's no need to get that complicated.

Search feature -----> Buy option

Done.

[Wynn]

The refusal to use the other two cities' wards is not a development issue, it's a community one. You can blame SE all you want for having a limit on retainers in wards but, in the end, it's *you* who refuses to make use of the available wards elsewhere.

I would say this is spot on. Like I said earlier, I use the other wards in the other cities. People WILL buy there, in fact they WANT to, but they are having trouble finding things in Limsa and Gridania because the sellers have decided to turn Ul'dah into New Jeuno. It is kind of funny to see someone in Limsa upset that they can't find anything in the wards because they are empty and then see another player in Ul'dah later that evening upset because the wards are over crowded, making it impossible for them to place their retainer in the correct ward.

There really is no reason to pack into Ul'dah like sardines in a tin can, especially now with the changes to obtaining guildmarks, how guildleves award sp, and the introduction of companies. People are actually using Limsa and Gridania again. If the community at large put their retainers somewhere other than Ul'dah, their things would sell. I do it just about every day.

I would argue that, while the market wards are far from perfect, we the players are exacerbating the problem by being stubborn.

[KitCat]

It's an unofficial poll. The official player's polls show that people are much, much more in favor of having an AH.

And for the record, people are accepting MW because it's the ONLY trading system the game has, and it's just barely functional. It's not good by any stretch of the word and I guarantee you that virtually everybody would be switching over to an eBay/WOW/Aion/whatever style system if it was available.

This. Unofficial polls are meaningless. Check out the official FFXI player poll statistics.

As far as maturity level goes, you're right. But it doesn't mean you should stoop to their levels :/ Anyway enough of that matter.