PLEASE fix the credit system for hunts!

[Lithera]

Threat is actually the most logical value to rate players on. For tanks it's their job to generate momentous amounts of threat. For DPS their threat and their damage are equal value unless they're using Quelling or hit something like Elusive Jump (Im actually curious now. Might Elusive Jump near the end of the next Hunt I kill and see if it impacts credit). For healers their threat is equal to their healing+ any DPS they do unless something like Shroud is used. By gauging threat the game is gauging every job's overall output to the battle. The problem isn't with the scoring...the problem is the nature of the fight. Because of the zergfest it's very difficult for DPS to actually push their normal damage numbers (Especially SMN). This hurts traditional parties.

[Natashio]

One question I like to ask to the OP. Was your ENTIRE party there present from begging to end as you mention you were there. If the answer is um 'no'. Then no matter if you are whm/tank spamming medica/flash, DPS pulling max damage, you are NOT going to get full credit on those fights.

If your party was there, all 8 members present at the target, than I suspect that someone was doing nothing.

[JustPlainLucas]

Yeah, I'm pretty sure everyone was there. Everyone got invited before the mob was pulled, and I'm pretty sure I saw Medica II stacks on everyone. Of course, maybe I'm wrong. It's been several hours since I made this thread. Maybe I'm misremembering something. BUT, this hasn't been the first time I've seen this happen. Just an hour or so after I made this thread, there was another S in Outer La Noscea. Everyone showed up, started attacking right when it was pulled, and still, 30 seals. Sometimes in Odin, you could be in the fight for a good five minutes and still only get silver. It just seems that there's no rhyme or reason for who gets full credit or not. I've showed up to an S rank, Miasma II'd it to tag, got killed by the AoE instantly and was down the entire fight. Got full credit for that. Really shouldn't have, because I contributed nothing to the fight whatsover. *shrugs*

[Mykll]

A and S should be the same as B. limited, and only credit if you have the hunt mark. That solves this problem, gets rid of the Zerg, gets smaller groups more like SE intended, and gets people back to playing other parts of the game.

[Lithera]

A and S should be the same as B. limited, and only credit if you have the hunt mark. That solves this problem, gets rid of the Zerg, gets smaller groups more like SE intended, and gets people back to playing other parts of the game.

Not easy to do with As and Ss since they're party unless you could pick up a mark (be it daiy or w/e) as the party lead then go complete it. It would then almost become Treasure Hunts without the chests though.

[Mykll]

Imagine if treasure hunt mobs/groups spawned like hunts, and anybody gets credit/rewards from the various levels of "chests". Oh, wait, don't have to imagine that. It's called hunts. Giving full credit and seals to the mark holder, and lesser rewards (exp, Gil, whatever) to any without the mark but helped, yeah that sounds like treasure chests. It is just odd SE, with the history of the player base to do what they have, from exploiting Fates, speed running, etc. never knew that this was going to happen, and already had a system in place (treasure hunts) that provided some sort of open world content without zerg hunts are today. I think anybody could have told SE this is what players would do, and if this was not their intent, they have several ways to make it more in line with their intent. All in all, just another questionable move by SE.

[LalaRu]

The only concern to me is reset. Mob does must not reset, just go back in its place but no reset.

[Synestr]

It might be a bit of a bear to get a party together that posesses the same mark. Not may people, unless friends and FC members, will join up to just go help with an S rank. Maybe if a partial reward system was introduced. Bill holder get the full credit, rest of the party gets like 15 seals or something. Wold be 155 seals per party. Who knows. I like the way it is now. I get my weekly done asap, and dailies take like 20 mins. Then if needed I pop in a hunt group to get some big baddies and pad my currency. Granted it is not like it was before, but it is still good if not better IMO.

At times I also go as healer, and a few times have not touched the mob, and have gotten full credit. So not sure if "you have to hit it to get it" is completely accurate.

Just my 2g

Syn

[gamesmart]

At times I also go as healer, and a few times have not touched the mob, and have gotten full credit. So not sure if "you have to hit it to get it" is completely accurate.

There have been times where when I'm on WHM, if I didn't hit the mark with something like Aero or Fluid Aura, I would get nothing even though the rest of my party got full credit. Other times it works perfectly fine, so I'd say just do it - better safe than sorry, really.

[Adler]

DPS can get high enmity as well as tank generate little enmity. If some party members suck it doesn't mean credit system for hunts is broken.