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    PLEASE fix the credit system for hunts!

    Just killed the S in Southern Thanalan. Full party, at the beginning of the pull. 30 seals. Why did I not get full credit, when I was there at the very start, in a full party? You know what? Just throw the entire credit system out the window. Get rid of it. When you have a broken system that only lets 20 (or 40, I forget the number) DoTs on at once, and mobs that pop in and out, and people resetting (either on accident or purpose), people are unfairly losing out on credit, so just get rid of the entire system altogether.
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    And then you'd have people hitting the mark once, leaving, having fewer people to actually kill the thing, possibly leading to a wipe and causing nobody to get credit. No, partial credit needs to stay, and your party needs to work harder if you wanna get full credit. The 60 DoT limit, as well as the entire hunt system, wasn't meant for 300 people to come and blast one mob.

    People need to stop calling things broken just because it didn't work out for them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gamesmart View Post
    And then you'd have people hitting the mark once, leaving, having fewer people to actually kill the thing, possibly leading to a wipe and causing nobody to get credit. No, partial credit needs to stay, and your party needs to work harder if you wanna get full credit. The 60 DoT limit, as well as the entire hunt system, wasn't meant for 300 people to come and blast one mob.

    People need to stop calling things broken just because it didn't work out for them.
    The system IS broken. Let's think about it, shall we? The purpose of a mob is to fight it. Not keep healing people who aren't getting hit. The fact that your party should mostly consist of healers and tanks is ridiculous, because that's not now any proper fighting scenario should ever play out. Can you imagine a war that's won with nothing but medics? Naw, you need soldiers, infantrymen and all that jazz. For your information, my party was already working as hard as they could. I already had three WHMs in there and they were spamming Medica II constantly. We couldn't work any harder. And yeah, I was off on the DoT count, but it still doesn't change the fact that so many DoTs are put on that mine slip off and I can't Fester for any damage. I can't do my job AS MY ROLE. Again, there are instances where technical limitations won't even render the mob for someone to tag. If that isn't the very definition of a broken system, I don't know what is.

    As for people tagging and leaving, it's quite simple. They leave the mob's zone (which has a buffer area in case they need to dodge AoEs), their credit gets reset. Simple solution.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JustPlainLucas View Post
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    If your WHMs are spamming Medica II they're not generating max enmity - Medica is better, Cure III is best, but for Cure III you'd need at least 5 people stacked together. And on S ranks - which no longer disappear as per Friday's patch - I'd be pretty surprised if nobody in your party ever got hit, and I've actually saved quite a few people in my party simply from spamming Medica.

    The system's not broken, it's the players that are trying to play the system outside of the way it was intended. Also, a 300-on-1 is hardly anywhere near a "proper" fighting scenario, so that point's more or less moot. But if you still want to go there, one could also argue that you brought the wrong soldiers to the fight - this type of situation asks for the type of DPS that hit hard and hit now, not the ones that do gradual damage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gamesmart View Post
    If your WHMs are spamming Medica II they're not generating max enmity - Medica is better, Cure III is best, but for Cure III you'd need at least 5 people stacked together. And on S ranks - which no longer disappear as per Friday's patch - I'd be pretty surprised if nobody in your party ever got hit, and I've actually saved quite a few people in my party simply from spamming Medica.
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    Not true. The sabotender disappeared on me yesterday and only reappeared after it was dead, and I'm on PS4, so it's still happening (granted, hasn't happened nearly as often, but still isn't entirely fixed).
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    Quote Originally Posted by JustPlainLucas View Post
    Not true. The sabotender disappeared on me yesterday and only reappeared after it was dead, and I'm on PS4, so it's still happening (granted, hasn't happened nearly as often, but still isn't entirely fixed).
    Sabotender Bailarina's an A rank, not an S rank. Rendering priority was only fixed for S ranks because A ranks don't disappear nearly as often.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JustPlainLucas View Post
    The system IS broken. Let's think about it, shall we? The purpose of a mob is to fight it. Not keep healing people who aren't getting hit. The fact that your party should mostly consist of healers and tanks is ridiculous, because that's not now any proper fighting scenario should ever play out. Can you imagine a war that's won with nothing but medics? Naw, you need soldiers, infantrymen and all that jazz. For your information, my party was already working as hard as they could. I already had three WHMs in there and they were spamming Medica II constantly. We couldn't work any harder. And yeah, I was off on the DoT count, but it still doesn't change the fact that so many DoTs are put on that mine slip off and I can't Fester for any damage. I can't do my job AS MY ROLE.
    There's your problem.

    And as for your question about a war being won with nothing but tanks and medics. . .well, yeah, I could easily see that happening if magic were real and we had people irl who could tank. >_>
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    Bring moar WHMs and tanks. And you don't spam medica 2 unless the regen wears. Medica or Cure3 if people are close
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    Not everyone is agreeing with OP.

    Thread must be broken.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JustPlainLucas View Post
    Just killed the S in Southern Thanalan. Full party, at the beginning of the pull. 30 seals. Why did I not get full credit, when I was there at the very start, in a full party? You know what? Just throw the entire credit system out the window. Get rid of it. When you have a broken system that only lets 20 (or 40, I forget the number) DoTs on at once, and mobs that pop in and out, and people resetting (either on accident or purpose), people are unfairly losing out on credit, so just get rid of the entire system altogether.
    60 debuffs. Not that that's really enough, but at least get your numbers right if you're gonna complain.

    Also, if you cared about credit, you'd be in a party full of healers and tanks, who don't care about the debuff limit.
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