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    Apricoth's Avatar
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    Apricoth Daenya
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    Rogue Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Evangela View Post
    melee DPS in this game are more harder to play and more complicate than Bard.

    White Mage and Scholar are both good but I like WHM more as it has better offensive spells. WHM is the king of hunts too.
    Though I do like white mage, white mage is over rated in Hunts. Get a scholar that knows what they are doing in hunts, coupled with a white mage (even two scholars will do it) and a group that puts out all effort (assuming all are present on the mob) and you end up with full credit every time. I put up Cleric Stance, have Selene do either melee or caster spell/skill speed ups (I tend towards melee first to help out the tanks and other melee work that agro), dot the mob with all the dots I have, take off Cleric Stance, Succor, do a few heals (Lustrate or Physick if needed), put Cleric Stance back up, refresh dots and continue with offensive spell. Any scholar worth their salt will do their job properly to contribute towards the encounter.

    So yes, Scholar can be a great deal of fun but it really depends on situations (outside of Hunt). If you are just looking to heal, white mage or scholar will work. If you want to solo things, kill things quickly, do white mage. In regards to bard - I agree, it needs some serious loving. However, you can build up agro really quickly if you cycle through your CDs properly. That goes for any class for that matter. If you want up close and personal, can do monk or dragoon otherwise. Monk is a lot of work from what I have heard, so be aware and ask for pointers on that one.
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    Player Zaft's Avatar
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    Leo Strut
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    Quote Originally Posted by Apricoth View Post
    Though I do like white mage, white mage is over rated in Hunts. Get a scholar that knows what they are doing in hunts, coupled with a white mage (even two scholars will do it) and a group that puts out all effort (assuming all are present on the mob) and you end up with full credit every time.
    I believe what she's getting at is how incredibly easy it is for WHM to get full credit on anything. A rank Hunts die in only a few seconds, S rank die in less than a minute. But with a WHM, it's very easy to get full credit, because of the massive amount of threat they generate spamming their cures. Have everybody stack, hit Divine Seal, Medica 2, Presence of Mind and then spam Cure 3 until the fight is over. Pretty much guaranteed full credit, no actual effort required.
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    Aria Ashford
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Zaft View Post
    I believe what she's getting at is how incredibly easy it is for WHM to get full credit on anything. A rank Hunts die in only a few seconds, S rank die in less than a minute. But with a WHM, it's very easy to get full credit, because of the massive amount of threat they generate spamming their cures. Have everybody stack, hit Divine Seal, Medica 2, Presence of Mind and then spam Cure 3 until the fight is over. Pretty much guaranteed full credit, no actual effort required.
    This. I've always gotten full credit this way. Sometimes I'll throw an Aero on the mob for giggles, too.
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    subteraneanbird's Avatar
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    Kurara Mamegano
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaft View Post
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    It's more than that. WHM allows you the higher possibility for full credit not only because of the huge contribution healing provides but because it doesn't require you to do damage to a mob (past the initial tagging with Stone/Fluid Aura. Aero is questionable because of the DoT limit). It allows your non healers to contribute more too and allows the mob to live slightly longer. Doing what was suggested as a SCH will actually reduce mob lifetime which can work, but is a good way to shoot your party in the foot.
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    Mirana Starlight
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    Odin
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    Archer Lv 48
    Well only seen a few scholars they have Pixie, Fairy that does healing.
    White mages does a 2 shields one stone skin you need reapply often during fights.
    And have Aoe and single target heals.
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    Dyvid Pandemonium
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    Adamantoise
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    Blacksmith Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Darthana View Post
    Well only seen a few scholars they have Pixie, Fairy that does healing.
    White mages does a 2 shields one stone skin you need reapply often during fights.
    And have Aoe and single target heals.
    Just a breakdown on SCH. You have a single target heal that is half heal, half shield. An AoE heal that is half heal, half shield. One fairy gives you heal, AoE Regen, magic resist buff, and healing buff. The other fairy gives you heal, silence, 30% party skill speed buff, and 30% spell speed buff. You also get a ground effect shield that give 10% damage resist buff.
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