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    It is already in the Summoner Lore for people to have the ability (though atm, it may be lost to us, we could very well re-discover it) to summon Primals.

    In times immemorial, there lived mages who had not only the power to summon the primals, but also the means to transmute the primals' essences, thus binding them to their will.
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    These 2 both explain themselves. Lightning can travel time/dimensions. Shantotto had all her clones/other dimension selves go back to their own dimensions. Due to some of them being evil (or at least some having the possibility), it really wouldnt be a stretch to think some would instead to go another dimension.

    Breaking Brick Mountains is just golems made by bricks, instead of some other substance that came directly from the earth.
    Shantotto also has the ability herself to traverse different dimensions as well. Not just the other Shantotto's that's how that whole mess got started in that storyline back on XI.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yamimarik View Post
    It is already in the Summoner Lore for people to have the ability (though atm, it may be lost to us, we could very well re-discover it) to summon Primals.


    http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/pr/game/#!/jobs/content
    If that is so, then why, in the final SMN job quest, did someone need 10 Summoner Soul Stones just to summon a more powerful egi instead of a full, actual primal themselves? I mean sure, they weren't Warriors of Light, but the power differential wasn't even all that wide. I mean, if Summoners really did have the power to summon the actual primals themselves, that power is clearly long since gone, or rests exclusively with the Ascians. There is no way I could see a player playing as a summoner being able to summon enough essence of a primal and control it unless something in the lore reveals itself, like a special focusing device or something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HakuroDK View Post
    If that is so, then why, in the final SMN job quest, did someone need 10 Summoner Soul Stones just to summon a more powerful egi instead of a full, actual primal themselves? I mean sure, they weren't Warriors of Light, but the power differential wasn't even all that wide. I mean, if Summoners really did have the power to summon the actual primals themselves, that power is clearly long since gone, or rests exclusively with the Ascians. There is no way I could see a player playing as a summoner being able to summon enough essence of a primal and control it unless something in the lore reveals itself, like a special focusing device or something.
    I never said a single individual could summon 1 primal or more by themselves, even in that tid-bit of lore it says a tribe of mages. Maybe it took an entire tribe of Summoner's to summon a primal. I'm just saying it is already in Summoner's histories that people other than beastmen have the power and means somehow to summon full blown primals to their side. How this is accomplished we don't know yet, and probably won't until they implement the system.

    SE has already stated they want to add this system in, I'm sure it will come with the appropriate lore, plus we have no idea how Shiva will come about, maybe that will be the key we need in order to learn how to summon a Primal to our side/aid. There are no histories of Shiva, and no way of knowing how she comes to be or who summons her.
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