Shiva, the last hostile primal? Maybe not.

[Dwill]

It's why I liked the XI SMn, even as the cap raised, our previous summons still got stronger because we got stronger.

Yep, our egis are not going to get stronger. They won't snapshot our stats anymore and they're just going to stay at 50 when the level cap is raised and are going to be weak forever henceforth.

[Synestr]

Shiva would be the last primal in Eorzea.
But there exist still other primals in other lands. And I think with 3.0 we discover a new land (in the sky).
I also wish that 3.0 expand the playable regions of Eorzea. Like Dravania or Gyr Abania.

Are we going back to sky already?...

[TheMunimai]

I'm guessing it's the Heretics. Sure they love themselves some dragons, but Lady Iceheart is leading them now, and Haurchefant says that they have a fanatical devotion to her. It wouldn't be any stretch to assume that Lady Iceheart is Shiva in disguise (to the Ishgardians, at least) and that the Heretics are the ones who summoned her.

I agree with this!!

It's definitely safe to assume Lady Iceheart is Shiva seeing as Yoshi admitted we would begin to see Shiva's storyline in 2.3 (Lady Iceheart being the only person that comes close to looking like her)

I also agree that the heretics would make up her "beastman tribe" - SE confirmed that the Ixali are going to the be last beastman dailies so maybe that leans towards confirming that shiva's tribe are humans?

[myahele]

I still think that she is tempering people and to Ishgardians they're no different from Heretics. Its also not far fetch that she's using humans. Leviathan is a good example. He was revered by the Shadow Reavers (?) and he didn't need to temper them.

[lordparanoia]

Please:

Mateus


Maduin



Ixion


3 Magus Sisters

[Alexander_Dragonfang]

IDK where you guys got that 2.5 was the end of the content patches till expansion but, well, ok.

First off lets talk about what is a primal and what not.

Primal are undying entities SUMMONED by their followers gathering vast ammounts of aetherite. By this rule, in game we have: Ifrit, Titan, Garuda, Leviathan, Ramuh.
Elder Primals are the same but they don`t need to be summoned by anyone, can perfectly become manifest by themselves as long as they are not imprisoned somehow: Bahamut and Odin.
Behemonth is not a primal. Shiva, till we don`t know how she made it to Ishgard is not a primal. (doesnt have a "tribe" so she could perfectly be an elder primal). King mog is "considered" a primal but is more of a god summoned by faith than other thing.
Any voidsent isn`t a primal, for example, Diabolos.

So, for what is Eorzea, considering the other potential "beast tribes" (gigas for example) there is pretty much a lot of lore to get more primals from.

The theory of Ishgard being Alexander is... IDK, hard to belive, why he hasn`t awakend yet? if he is a primal, Ishgardians with their zealot for Halone will never be able to summon him so that denies it`s existence right away in the game, if he is an elder primal there is no reason for him to not have awaken in all these years, specially since Alexander, Odin and Bahamut form the most iconic fantasy trinity of them all, the Castle, the Knight and the Dragon. So, if 2 of them are arround, or have been arround, why Alexander doesn`t?

And what about the "confirmed" Fenrir? Also in one interview yoshida said that Odin would eventually become "more important". He is an Elder Primal ffs, you can`t just leave him wandering through the shroud slaying adventurer just because.

[coldreactive]

The theory of Ishgard being Alexander is... IDK, hard to belive, why he hasn`t awakend yet? if he is a primal, Ishgardians with their zealot for Halone will never be able to summon him so that denies it`s existence right away in the game, if he is an elder primal there is no reason for him to not have awaken in all these years, specially since Alexander, Odin and Bahamut form the most iconic fantasy trinity of them all, the Castle, the Knight and the Dragon. So, if 2 of them are arround, or have been arround, why Alexander doesn`t?

As stated, and as theorycrafted based on other FFs, Alexander is more the type to not have its own will, due to being more machine than biological. It's entirely possible that Alexander is awake, he just isn't moving or anything due to not being commanded to.

Also +1 for Mateus and more pretty lady primals.

[Gerolan]

I would like to see Fenrir or Cerberus soon. Maybe a 8 man fight similar to Odin, but instead against Raiden. There are too many good summons they can bring in.

Be happy, Cerberus is in the next crystal tower wing

[BristolRuss]

and possibly Atma Weapon (the creature).

We should have this and have it say a range of Atma based puns whilst fighting it.

"Think you can defeat me? I hope the RNG god is on your side!"

"What? Defeated?! But you had only a 2% chance!"

[Tupsi]

IDK where you guys got that 2.5 was the end of the content patches till expansion but, well, ok.

Based on timing. 2.4 is coming in december knowing how late as possible yoshida wants to push out main patches - 2.5 will be the usual "3 months after" which lands it around March, which means it'll be only a few months until an expansion is supposed to be released if it's "coming sooner than we think" as he always likes to state.

So yeah, 2.5 being the last before the expansion makes sense unless they're not releasing it in 2015, which is 2 years after the game launched.