Watching cutscenes = AFK?

[Mugiawara]

I agree with you OP, this sort of behavior is unacceptable and should not be tolerated. How are we going to grow a community if we treat our new players like garbage?

This is the price you pay when you have cross-server duty finders for easier que's and party finding.
People roam free and be butts all they want, with no punishment or back lash because
no ones going to care because you won't see those people ever again, so they're off Scott-Free.
It's sad but oh well...If it was within the server, people will go around warning so and so.

[StrejdaTom]

Today in Praetorium we had a first timer, my party didnt even care about waiting for him and went for speed run. They literally didnt kill a single mob and the poor guy was a bit slower so he ended dead. Then they just went further, killed 2 bosses without him, then I left the duty. I believe he really enjoyed being dead all the time or trying to find us in the dungeon which might be a maze for a new player.

[Darki]

I can't believe the nerve of people initiating vote to dismiss just because an admittedly first-timer dares to wish to watch the cutscenes in a story instance in a random DF. I didn't know experiencing (or wanting to experience) the game as intended, for the first time, living the dramaturgy and the atmosphere of the story, constitutes to an AFK "reason" to initiate a vote. Not once, not twice, but four or fifth times just because it doesn't go through the first time. And enough people voting with yes for it to actually go through.

The poor guy didn't even do anything bad - playing his role well enough as a matter of fact when he could actually catch up. As if the rush in itself isn't confusing (and thus discouraging) enough, now new players aren't even allowed to enjoy anything at all, because some jerk of a tank hasn't heard of patience?

Sorry, not sorry - some players really just disgust me.

This isn't the first thread to bring this up. A forum mod has also already responded to this saying that they couldn't makes calls on vote kicking if it is based on "conflicting player's styles." I think this is a cop-out answer personally but it basically says they will not do anything about it. /Roll Eyes Personally I think this is something that should be talked about in the party in a mature manner. The vote kick was obviously never meant to be used this way. Why should it ever come to this?

Two things anyone could do:

1. Call for a vote at the start of the duty to see who is OK with CS watching. This should avoid the vote kick ever being thought about let alone used in such a manner.
2. Use the party finder and select the "No CS skipping" box. (This is more reliable then one might think.)

[Nicobo]

IMO, If you don't run story roulette daily, don't judge them ^^;

[coldreactive]

IMO, If you don't run story roulette daily, don't judge them ^^;

I tend to, I usually get a cutscene watcher each time. But it's fine, I can deal with it. The other party members though, usually high geared tanks, want to rush... and as a healer or BLM, I just facepalm (at the tanks.)

[Nicobo]

I tend to, I usually get a cutscene watcher each time. But it's fine, I can deal with it. The other party members though, usually high geared tanks, want to rush... and as a healer or BLM, I just facepalm (at the tanks.)

Ic, you are so nice. ^^

[Millen1]

I agree with not kicking new players for watching cutscenes. We signed up for the roulette. On the other side I have seen players go AFK in cutscenes in CM and prea. I stopped running them. I am tried of the system abuse, all sides. They give us a bonus to do content we don't need, it helps new players through but they get dragged along. Still comes down to the grind that started in 2.2 with atma that made things toxic and 2.3 hunts sent more plaers in to being toxic. I hope 2.4 balances things out.

[Violyre]

My one regret on reflection was skipping CS in fear people would get mad at me. It takes forever for me to even skip them sometimes, and I'll get lost. We had one person in my Castrum Meridiaum run that kept saying I suck because I got lost. Luckily, the tank told him to shut up and yelled at him for all the things I wanted to say to but was too scared to.

I actually was inspired by that to let new people watch the story, and give them help in each dungeon, assuming I know the fight. I'm trying to level vital classes for parties so I can help do that (near finished healer, tank is next).

Though it doesn't help much with the final boss in Toto-rak and your tank decides the two new DPS in the CS should've been ready (actual quote!), and he runs in and it sucks me down too. I went off hard on that tank for that and another problem we had with him in the dungeon (unless dungeons now require a tank hold one mob and two Topaz Carbuncles to hold the rest.)

[Grimmies]

IMO, If you don't run story roulette daily, don't judge them ^^;

They should be judged.

[Nicobo]

They should be judged.

Maybe.
But just FYI, I used to run story roulette everyday, and found almost every newbie Want The Fastest clear.
Therefore I encourage ppl have a look on the update situation before judging them. ^^;