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    Quote Originally Posted by Lukha View Post
    And I'm very greatful for that! I like quick, efficient runs, but speed runs are usually neither of those things. Though it CAN be funny to let a DF tank die when he tries to pull half an instance without telling me...
    Never speed run the water sprite stuff in Hullbreaker without a WHM. It doesn't work. Especially not with a WAR. (Unless you get lucky and have two BLMs who know quickflare and quelling strikes.) I died too many times even with a WHM as an i94 Tank (Both PLD and WAR) On those bits. I made a macro as such for my tank:

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    /p I will not be speed running this dungeon. If you are here to speed run, please leave now, or deal with it.
    Even if a magic tank comes, I will still use this macro, and I will never speed run ever.
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    Last edited by coldreactive; 08-31-2014 at 03:57 AM.

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    Ohhh dont do that, then people will just lock themself on CS and afk since they cant be kicked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Myrhn View Post
    Ohhh dont do that, then people will just lock themself on CS and afk since they cant be kicked.
    The dungeon will auto-kick (Cutscene or not) after 10 minutes AFK. If that doesn't happen (IE: if the cutscene is still going after 10 minutes) they can add an "Exception" Rule to the vote kick system to allow players to kick people stuck in cutscenes.
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    Last edited by coldreactive; 08-31-2014 at 04:13 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coldreactive View Post
    The dungeon will auto-kick (Cutscene or not) after 10 minutes AFK.
    Or they can simply make it so that you can't lock yourself in cutscene.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SDaemon View Post
    Or they can simply make it so that you can't lock yourself in cutscene.
    IE: Have cutscenes auto-progress with a little wheel icon like Fate dialogs do.
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    I personally find it sad and find it a lousy excuse when people say "watch it in the inn"..hun, a little CS isn't going to hurt anyone. Don't complain about your "precious" time either, it's really not.
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    What also irritates me are people that try to speed run low level roulettes.
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    If you use Duty Finder. Don't expect everyone to wait for you to watch cutscenes.
    If you use Duty Finder. Don't expect for everyone to engage in a speedy run.

    Its a double edged sword. To put it simply, use Party Finder to make a group for the type of run you wish to do.

    For the Main Scenario Duties, this is how I see it. As long as one healer and one tank aren't watching the cutscenes.. just roll with it. Complete the instance as normal. You only need ONE tank, and ONE healer and any amount of DPS or No DPS to complete it. Let the people who want to watch, sit and watch. They're just missing trash mobs anyway.

    If you can't continue without the peeps watching the cutscenes, then learn to play. Seriously, Praetorium and Castrum Meridium are one tank one healer fights. The only time you need mostly everyone present is Ultima Weapon, second phase, last 10%. All cutscenes will be done by then.

    This is a player issue and one we can fix ourselves. SE doesn't need to be involved.
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    Quote Originally Posted by coldreactive View Post
    The developers are also trying to make dungeons have gimmicks and mechanics to force players to not speed run as much as possible. (Fire walls in Stone Vigil Hard. Sifaka Killing in Hullbreaker, etc.) I'm glad they're doing this, but I've since hung up my tank gear completely, in hopes they'll add a magic tank class in the future that I can get into. I'm not a fan of close up tanks. (Nor am I fan of stat-based tanks, such as EVA and Dodge Tanks.)
    So what you are saying is you expect a tank class where you can hold hate with magic attacks thus tanking it from afar expecting the mob not to run up to you cause you have top hate (since you hate "close up" tank). That logic.
    As for the whole DF kicking, they really should just make it so that you can't initiate a kick when someone is in CS. They've done it for in combat, when loots are available, I don't see why they can't do it for CS as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by coldreactive View Post
    Never speed run the water sprite stuff in Hullbreaker without a WHM. It doesn't work. Especially not with a WAR. (Unless you get lucky and have two BLMs who know quickflare and quelling strikes.) I died too many times even with a WHM as an i94 Tank (Both PLD and WAR) On those bits. I made a macro as such for my tank:
    Apocatastasis is great for the water sprites too.

    @OP - trust me, this behavior disgusts me too. I always let new people watch the cut scenes when I tank.
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