Xeno's Warrior Tanking Guide

[Rbstr]

Hey Xeno,

How much more gear do you think I need before I'm reading to go full STR? http://xivdb.com/?wardrobe/12830/Current-Warrior

I think you could do it now. I mean if you're running into later coil turns maybe you have reservations. But, I don't think I started turn 6 with more than 8k hp at the time - Currently you have more HP than what I usually bring to t6 and t7. You'd be OK in everything else.

[Rona]

I think you could do it now. I mean if you're running into later coil turns maybe you have reservations. But, I don't think I started turn 6 with more than 8k hp at the time - Currently you have more HP than what I usually bring to t6 and t7. You'd be OK in everything else.

Awesome, thanks! Guess I get a book today and start working on my gear.

[Xenosys]

Hey Xeno,

How much more gear do you think I need before I'm reading to go full STR? http://xivdb.com/?wardrobe/12830/Current-Warrior

I would say It would depend on what content you are doing. Being at IL 93 you probably want all the vit you can get. Once you reach 9k you can start to play a with str a little more. Ideally youll want 9500 minimum to go specced fully into str IMO.

[Rbstr]

Yeah I lost my train of thought there and posted when I got up instead of finishing, sorry. (and also forgot about the difference in damage reduction! It's a total of about 10 adjusted pot different so the paly would be just slightly ahead)
The continuation is that BB doesn't need 2x the enmity to keep up, it needs substantially less than that. The Storms combos still do some enmity on their own and buff the BB combo ahead of Halone by 16% total pot (before hate bonuses) without the SE debuff.
That in the end I think it makes hate pretty darn even before unchained, berzerk and FoF come into play.

[Zdenka]

Exactly, you must use a Storms Eye or Path combo as WAR to keep Maim up, which lowers your overall threat compared to PLD... PLD does more damage (and threat) than a WAR does if the WAR only spams Butchers Block because PLD does more Auto-Attack damage due to Sword Oath. You cannot cannot cannot forget about that when comparing them. If you are considering Shield Oath vs Defiance only, then it becomes similar.

Kudos to you if you can tank without Defiance on as a WAR, but even a full STR WAR w/o Defiance cannot hold off any DPS thats doing higher than 450-470 DPS, and it can BARELY hold off of a STR PLD even in Defiance, assuming you are doing Eye. Also a side note, when we were testing the usefulness of a STR PLD we found that a WAR with full STR ilvl 104 cannot hold threat off a full 110 PLD in Sword Oath... its sooooo soooo close even for a 110 WAR. So the usefulness of WAR MT, STR PLD OT is really limited just due to the humungous amount of threat the PLD generates.... progression is pretty much out of the question.

Also my PLD 380 Top end and WAR 400 top end should be pretty accurate... 1 mistake on WAR's rotation (at all) drops it by 15-20 DPS instantly, its crazy. So PLD and WAR both probably do 380 top end just because of how difficult it is for WAR to pull out that extra 5%.

[Synestr]

Heh, caught it before the edit!!! W I N!

[melflomil]

each stack of wrath increases Critical hit by 2% and Healing by magic by 3%for a total 10% and 15% respectively. Would it be wise to hold on to infuriate when you know you will need that extra healing.

[SeraviEdalborez]

each stack of wrath increases Critical hit by 2% and Healing by magic by 3%for a total 10% and 15% respectively. Would it be wise to hold on to infuriate when you know you will need that extra healing.

That time machine you're in that goes back to 2.0 needs fixing.

They took out tying the healing+ to Wrath stacks a LONG time ago. It's now part of Defiance itself. The only thing stacks give is crit, and it's not worth holding onto them purely for the crit (you hold onto them if you need to IB at a certain time and won't [or don't know if you will] get 5 stacks again before you need the IB mitigation).

As a side note, even if the healing was still tied to wrath stacks it wouldn't be a good enough reason to hold onto stacks with the post-2.1 Inner Beast.

[melflomil]

Best advice I got from this thread was beserk, make sure maim is up and second wind. Self heal for a bigger ammount now. Is the potency effective by defiance by any chance? Since defiance lower at power by 25%?

[Donjo]

Best advice I got from this thread was beserk, make sure maim is up and second wind. Self heal for a bigger ammount now. Is the potency effective by defiance by any chance? Since defiance lower at power by 25%?

Defiance doesn't affect Second Wind at all. Second Wind scales off of your Attack Power, while Defiance only cuts damage dealt without affecting the actual Attack Power stat.