Are you happy with the current raiding structure in this game?

[Dhex]

YGardening, Chocobos, Basic Dungeons, and other Side content.

"Are you happy with the current raiding structure in this game?"

What does Chocobo dye, Gardening, Mythology Tomes, or any of the other side content you've mention have to do with the fact that this game is extremely weak and shallow when it comes to raiding?

Can we please stick to the topic? You don't refute anything about the raiding system - and that's what this thread is discussing - if you're happy with it say so and move on. Don't try to glaze over other people's concerns and suggestions repeatedly without offering something at least mildly constructive.

Also what even;

This wasn't a game where it would dominate most of your gaming time or even your daily time. Instead, this was more like a game that you could log in everyday and spend 4-12hours

[GalkaBikini]

What does Chocobo dye, Gardening, Mythology Tomes, or any of the other side content you've mention have to do with the fact that this game is extremely weak and shallow when it comes to raiding?

A ton. You're not supposed to do raid content and nothing else. That is not how the game is meant to be played and if you do play that way, don't complain when you have nothing to do. Most of the complaining comes from people who play a lot, specifically ones who don't engage in the other things the game has to offer. FFXIV caters to people with lives. People who go outside, socialize, have jobs, go to school, are married, have kids, play other games besides FFXIV, only raid once or twice a week, and are playing the game for everything it has. Try raiding once or twice a week for at most 1.5 hours and see if you get burnt out on raiding so quickly.

[Ooshima]

A ton. You're not supposed to do raid content and nothing else. That is not how the game is meant to be played and if you do play that way, don't complain when you have nothing to do. Most of the complaining comes from people who play a lot, specifically ones who don't engage in the other things the game has to offer. FFXIV caters to people with lives. People who go outside, socialize, have jobs, go to school, are married, have kids, play other games besides FFXIV, only raid once or twice a week, and are playing the game for everything it has. Try raiding once or twice a week for at most 1.5 hours and see if you get burnt out on raiding so quickly.

Someone who gets what this game is about. This isn't a raiding game per se. Raiding is just going to be one tiny fraction of the whole package.

[Dhex]

Try raiding once or twice a week for at most 1.5 hours and see if you get burnt out on raiding so quickly.

If I spent 1.5hrs in pick-ups as my schedule doesn't allow for static I'd be lucky to clear Turn 6 at all. As I said earlier in this very thread - step out of your static for a few weeks and the only endgame raid structure really starts to breakdown.

[Ooshima]

If I spent 1.5hrs in pick-ups as my schedule doesn't allow for static I'd be lucky to clear Turn 6 at all. As I said earlier in this very thread - step out of your static for a few weeks and the only endgame raid structure really starts to breakdown.

I am not sure about Excalibur, but for this week and last week's T6-T9 clear, I cleared as a stand-in/pug. My static has disbanded because 6 persons wanted to take a break from the game until 2.4 or further notice.

[Dhex]

I am not sure about Excalibur, but for this week and last week's T6-T9 clear, I cleared as a stand-in/pug. My static has disbanded because 6 persons wanted to take a break from the game until 2.4 or further notice.

Last week I spent 9hrs in total reforming endlessly due to people unable to handle the final phase of Turn 6.

Inconsistency and make-or-break situations when compounded with varying skill/gear/knowledge makes the only endgame raid exceedingly difficult for pick-ups.

[GalkaBikini]

Last week I spent 9hrs in total reforming endlessly due to people unable to handle the final phase of Turn 6.

How do you spend 9 hours in a week raiding but your schedule doesn't allow for a static?
And you keep complaining about players bring unable to handle the mechanics, but this whole time you've been playing you haven't met ONE single player that you thought was good enough to try playing with again? You've never thought to add competent players to your friends list or perhaps a linkshell?

[Krr]

How do you spend 9 hours in a week raiding but your schedule doesn't allow for a static?

Flexible, unreliable or just plain volatile scheduling at a workplace is a likely culprit.

Anyway, why the hell are we bringing up everything else in the game and therefore saying a critique of a poor raiding structure is irrelevant? The game very clearly has raiding as a feature, therefore it should be as fleshed out and functional as any other feature in the game.

[Richiealvian]

Last week I spent 9hrs in total reforming endlessly due to people unable to handle the final phase of Turn 6.

Inconsistency and make-or-break situations when compounded with varying skill/gear/knowledge makes the only endgame raid exceedingly difficult for pick-ups.

I've been in both situations really.

I've been with pugs that one shot everything, I've wiped for countless hours with static.
I've also been one shotting everything with pugs, or wiped for fourteen straight hours on Turn 4 of BCOB 1.

As you go along, as you teach more people.. the larger the pool of people you can play with. You might think it's insignificant but as you go you kind of recognize the players who want to improve and who just complains and be a jerk about how life has been treating them.