The Hunt - a game breaking feature

[Verun]

There is no forum for "the Hunt", so I'll post it here.

The Hunt is not killing the game.
The game is already dead.

Found this really good description:
http://gamerescape.com/2014/07/16/ff...with-the-hunt/

It's much worse than the guy describes though. He's a veteran player that focuses on those Coil-rewards. But all the rewards are completely off the hook. I was able to get from iLv 75 to 95 in 3-4 hours. I'd have needed weeks for that using the old style.

I can get 100 retainer ventures in 1-2 hours, maximize my weekly soldiery tomes and even equip my secondary job classes with iLv 90 gear extremely quickly without running a single dungeon.

And that directly leads to...

[Verun]

The worst problem is mentioned in that article: People are not playing the game anymore. Just zerging and harrassing. The Zerg takes sizes that are so huge, that you cannot even see the hunting targets anymore as the game client won't display that many moving objects at once.
Roulette queue times take like... 30 times longer to pop up now as seemingly no one does dungeons anymore.

The marks need a weekly limit. In the current state I'd even be okay with them rolling back everything 3 weeks lol (which won't happen ofc - just giving an example on how bad it actually is).

People who are against this, ask yourselves:
Do you really want to play a game in such an easy way as to be able to obtain literally everything you need to get to the endgame content without using any skill? You don't need any kind of playing skill to zerg down a mob.

[Verun]

Most of my guild quit the game already. I'm shortly before it. I do not care if there are any kids who like it the easiest possible way. Square-Enix always propagated the game as hard and says they didn't want to change that.

Now it's come down to one big fail zerg that brings out the worst in the people (just watch the certainly coming troll answers below).


PS: The limit for words is annoying as hell and doesn't belong in a forum.

[Vorpal_Spork]

PS: The limit for words is annoying as hell and doesn't belong in a forum.

Agreed. This isn't Twitter. People are actually trying to talk here.

[Ferth]

If you edit a post you no longer have the character limit.

[Alistaire]

If you edit a post you no longer have the character limit.

Best post in this thread.

[Riepah]

The game doesn't look dead to me.

[Verun]

The game doesn't look dead to me.

Yes of course I over exaggerated a bit. The ZERG lives! Only the other means of playing the game are pretty much dead now.
Right before I wrote the above, I was in Coerthas. There was no hunt at the time - only some people searching around. But guess what: the usual Coerthas FATE leveling group consisted of three people - not 30. And this was at prime time!
This was also the case three days ago, but I thought the announced patch would finally fix this cheat-like system.

Fact is: hunt marks need to be limited the same way as soldiery and myth tomes are.
This stays fact even if you do not agree with The Hunt having the game breaking impact, that this without any doubt has.

The Hunt is the same as a /givemeall command: a quick way of getting all while really missing all the challenging fun. And thus its exactly the opposite one wants in an MMORPG.

[Mags]

I've already cancelled my sub.

I cannot stand to see the community acting this way day in and day out in each zone I am in. And it is always... ALWAYS... the same. Someone pulled something before others showed up and the next 30 minutes is nothing but name calling and whatnot. I think they over did it with the rewards here. I understand they want people to play their new feature but giving away rewards one could only obtain in the hardest teir of raiding FASTER than raiding is just insane. No wonder queue times are in the toliet. This on top of the "community"... just disgusting, in my opinion. This is not what I wanted the game to be, this is not what the game was in Alpha and beta tests. This wasn't the game at launch.

I'll keep my ears open for the changes made to this system, but I doubt now even 2.4 can pull me back into the game as it is. Shame, I was really enjoying it.

[arctic]

I've already cancelled my sub.

I cannot stand to see the community acting this way day in and day out in each zone I am in. And it is always... ALWAYS... the same. Someone pulled something before others showed up and the next 30 minutes is nothing but name calling and whatnot.

That's such an extreme case of sensitive - I sincerely hope you never accidentally find yourself in the middle of a competition or confrontation.

People who are against this, ask yourselves:
Do you really want to play a game in such an easy way as to be able to obtain literally everything you need to get to the endgame content without using any skill? You don't need any kind of playing skill to zerg down a mob.

That's so elitist and short sighted. First off, it's still not Coil gear. If you're really a min/maxer elitist then you shouldn't feel threatened by the same ilevel gear since the stats still aren't as good. Not everyone can get coil gear, and they've already said these hunts have been introduced to help gear the community for the next wave of content.

The community is getting geared, granted there might have been some short shortsightedness on how far people are willing to take trolling, and how self entitled people are for things they did not find. But that will be resolved with time.

You can't get upset that people are getting gear. That's just ridiculous. No game (aside from guild wars 2, probably) keeps the same high-end gear through out the game. I remember working my butt off for Dark Light gear, now it's an instance trash drop. Should I quit because my high-end gear is getting less shiny because people can get equivalent ilevel gear with not as good stats? If people get stuck on old content because they can't get the gear then people will quit, then who will you flaunt your high level gear to? That really will be the death of the community and the game.

How far are you guys willing to take these complaints? You aren't required to participate and the instances are all still there, they haven't gone anywhere. How much is this really hurting you aside from your - I dunno ... warped pride? If everyone really is doing hunts and you can't find anyone to not do hunts with then, maybe it's just you with a problem?

I don't really expect everyone to have same level of indifference that I do towards hunts, but do have trouble understanding how this is "the one thing" that is generating so much drama and is "ruining everything" and anything related to this game for players.