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    Quote Originally Posted by Nutz View Post
    Man, lots of people in this thread don't seem to understand RNG very well. The OP is pretty spot on with most of this, except, as Krr said, there are hundreds of thousands (if not more than a million) people playing, which allows for a lot of extreme outliers. It's just bad business to use a method like this. Sure it will have the desired effect for the majority of the population, but the system allows for people to get atmas first try in every zone (probably has never happend and said player certainly wouldn't complain) or for it to take an indefinite number of attempts (literally never going to finish). Given the size of the population, if something has a 1/1,000,000 (.0001%) chance of happening, it will likely happen to someone. If it's only a 0.01% chance of happening it's going to happen to 100 of the million people.

    Even though it's statistically insignificant, it's going to make for a very bad experience for some of your players. As such, there should be caps where possible (ie. atmas can from FATES at X% chance and will definitely drop on the 50th FATE, reset counter at acquisition).
    I think I remember hearing someone mention that they only tried once per area. All I know is that they got their Atma super fast and I was like: how many fates did you run? And they were like, 'It wasn't bad, it was one fate per area."

    Now, whether they are including fates they did outside of hunting for Atmas or if they were including all fates that they did while counting, I don't know.

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    I seriously wonder if people realize the thing about statistics and probabilities. Just because it isn't likely doesn't mean that it can't happen and doesn't mean that it won't happen.

    As I said earlier, what is the chances of Earth forming and reaching the EXACT result it currently has including all the events leading up to it? And yet, Earth DID form and all the events on the Earth HAVE happened.

    I mean, consider in the rarity of all the material in the earth, in the moon, and how expansive the known universe is. The chances of all those materials forming into earth in the location earth is at and so on. If you think about it, the chances are statistically impossible to have those EXACT things happen.

    Also, the chances of me rolling a 1 on a 20 sided dice each time would be the same as me rolling a 1->20 in order or all 20s, or any other specific combination.

    Just as an FYI.
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    Last edited by ariaandkia; 08-29-2014 at 06:27 PM.
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