RNG doesn't hate you

[Mahri]

RNG doesn't hate you.

Just as the unknowable Outer God Azathoth does not hate you.

It is a force of absolute randomness. Of chaos and change, of fecundity and entropy.

It knows not who you are, nor what you seek.

You are not at its mercy, for to be merciful one must acknowledge, which RNG, by it's very nature, cannot, for it is a blind, idiot god.

Such a force is incapable of hate, yet what a force it is!

[KarmaCha]

The odds of you rolling 20 1s in a row is 1 in 104,857,600,000,000,000,000,000,000.

[ariaandkia]

The odds of you rolling 20 1s in a row is 1 in 104,857,600,000,000,000,000,000,000.

Doesn't stop it from happening, lol.

What is the chance of me rolling a 1 on a 100 sided dice (1% chance to fail) OVER 10000 times in a row? Because the chances of that must be astronomically low, lol.


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Also, I'm going to have two children. One will be named RNG. The other will be named 'you'. I will train 'RNG' to hate 'you'.

[KarmaCha]

Doesn't stop it from happening, lol.

What is the chance of me rolling a 1 on a 100 sided dice (1% chance to fail) OVER 10000 times in a row? Because the chances of that must be astronomically low, lol.

Someone call Mulder and Scully bc this person is an X-File. I don't doubt you've found yourself unlucky, but that number is so improbable it is a statistical impossibility. There is no way you experienced something as rare as 100 to the 10 thousandth power. Literally every other anomaly known to man would happen at the same time before that would.

[Tharian]

The odds of you rolling 20 1s in a row is 1 in 104,857,600,000,000,000,000,000,000.

okay, I have to actually comment on this one....

"Unless of course you are Luke from One Piece: Grand Line 3 Point 5. In which case you simply pull out your 20-sided die whose sides all have a 1 on them instead of the normal numbers."

[BobbinT]

oh btw...

in case of these atma farming from FATEs, it will be always 1% chance every time you do a FATE.

Have fun! XD

[KarmaCha]

Seriously people, get your soldiery weapon and stop torturing yourselves over a shiny. If you recognize that the atma system is broken (and if you do, boy you're gonna love spirit bonding for that novus!) why do you keep bashing your heads into it? It took me 40 hours to get my atma. 2 weeks of non stop farming to get my animus. Got to Novus and noped my way out of that stupid grind. Save yourself the trouble. They aren't even, and will never be, the best weapons in the game.

[Ampheni]

I disagree with your point that RNG doesn't hate me. But whatever, given up on atma and went for UATs instead, got 3 already so far.

[Kyros]

Pretty sure it was math'd out there that with 2% drop rate and the current playerbase on FFXI: Statistically, there should be around 40 players that will see 1000 fates without a single atma. If the RNG is true like they said, it means that there ARE people looking at this numbers out there.

See, this is the problem. Devs and RNG advocates only look at the macroscale effect of RNG. A true RNG has this effect where individuals can be subject to "extreme outliers". From a macroscale, looking at 1000 misses out of 1000000000000 is a very tiny number, but when those are subjected to a single individual, well, you get a shitty player experience. And true RNG allows that. Understanding of the concept or math behind this doesn't really make anyone feel better. You could be Erdős himself and you'll still call bullshit if you have that happen to you.

Is it the devs fault? Probably. The correct choice would have been to either subject the quest to something that is not 100% true RNG, or implement a RNG monitoring system to remove outliers (Smart RNG, basically). In the end, smart RNG doesnt affect % if you do it properly (Remove both good and bad outliers), and has the added benefit of making players happy.

In the end we get back to the same thing: Atma was lazy and poorly implemented, and the devs are trying to shift the blame to their "true RNG" system instead of realizing that its their fault True RNG is giving players the shaft.

[Duelle]

Pretty sure it was math'd out there that with 2% drop rate and the current playerbase on FFXI: Statistically, there should be around 40 players that will see 1000 fates without a single atma. If the RNG is true like they said, it means that there ARE people looking at this numbers out there.

See, this is the problem. Devs and RNG advocates only look at the macroscale effect of RNG. A true RNG has this effect where individuals can be subject to "extreme outliers". From a macroscale, looking at 1000 misses out of 1000000000000 is a very tiny number, but when those are subjected to a single individual, well, you get a shitty player experience. And true RNG allows that. Understanding of the concept or math behind this doesn't really make anyone feel better. You could be Erdős himself and you'll still call bullshit if you have that happen to you.

Is it the devs fault? Probably. The correct choice would have been to either subject the quest to something that is not 100% true RNG, or implement a RNG monitoring system to remove outliers (Smart RNG, basically). In the end, smart RNG doesnt affect % if you do it properly (Remove both good and bad outliers), and has the added benefit of making players happy.

In the end we get back to the same thing: Atma was lazy and poorly implemented, and the devs are trying to shift the blame to their "true RNG" system instead of realizing that its their fault True RNG is giving players the shaft.