New Elven Area Idea

[William_Almasy]

I see wildwood elves everywhere in Gridania. The duskwights have no real place, that we have seen, to call home. Plus in some quests they are always positioned as the evil guy.

(If my facts are wrong correct me)

I want a Duskwight hometown!

[Nialle]

So much Duskwight racism, it's true. The Lancer story quest even mentions it.
Duskwight elezen are kind of like Moon Keeper mi'qote tho, in that they prefer to live in the wilds and outside organized towns.

[Alihabra]

I'm probably wrong about something lorewise here, but I believe the duskwights did have Gelmorra (an underground city of some description), but it was destroyed/ abandoned some time ago. There is a couple of researchers in South Shroud (I think) doing studies on it. Also there's the Gelmorra ruins in North shroud.

On that note though, I think it would be interesting if, in one of the expansions, the Duskwights and some of the Moonkitties banded together and created a New Gelmorra. Kind of like a semi-organised hive of criminal activity and shady dealings - Or at least that's how the Gridanians would probably see it. Buuut anyway, I don't really see that happening anytime soon, if at all.

[William_Almasy]

Thanks I'm going to check out those locations when servers are back online.

[ruskie]

Wasn't Gelmorra the predecessor to gridania before the people were accepted by the elemntals?

[MercuryD]

Wasn't Gelmorra the predecessor to gridania before the people were accepted by the elemntals?

It was. But following the founding of Gridania the duskwights moved in and claimed it as their home. I'm not sure what happened to cause it's abandonment though...

[Enkidoh]

Gelmorra was abandoned because it had served it's purpose. The elezen inhabitants of Gelmorra had always desired to live on the surface in the Black Shroud, but the elementals refused anyone to live there (this is also why the Ixal are so antagonistic towards Gridania - they too were driven out of the Black Shroud by the elementals).

It was only after the early CNJs, with the assistance of the moogles, managed to broker a deal with the elementals were they were granted permission to live on the surface in the forest - and hence the founding of Gridania. Accordingly, Gelmorra was abandoned - although some Gelmorran structures have been re-purposed by Gridania (such as the Tam-Tara Deepcroft, and the Thousand Maws of Toto-Rak). Most of Gelmorra though lies in ruins.

[William_Almasy]

So where do baby duskwights come from? Outside of the shroud?

[Enkidoh]

According to here, duskwight elezen are actually a racial offshoot from wildwood elezen when Gelmorra was abandoned:

For the past several centuries, the Duskwight Elezen have lived in the woodland caverns of Eorzea. These cave-dwelling Elezen are the descendants of a branch that split from the main Wildwood clan during the founding of Gridania. The Duskwight despise the "shackles" of urban life, and it is not uncommon for this reclusive people to avoid the city-states altogether.

This would account for the lower population of duskwights - like any minority sadly they're marginalized to the fringes of society, which isn't helped by their preference for troglodytic living (as it was a hard won right to live in the Shroud the wildwood probably regard the duskwights's desire to continue living underground with scorn and contempt). Accordingly many have had to turn to banditry to survive, which has not helped the situation, much like the Keepers of the Moon miqo'te.

[Wadoka]

The ruins of Issom-Har...