3rd Party Program Bot farmers everywhere!!

[Ravno]

There's not a shadow of doubt that they are botting. (...) (5 accounts being driven by one person).

Are you sure that's not a legit multiboxer ? Did they /follow & /assist a leader or act independently ?

[TheRogueX]

legit multiboxer

lol, oxymoron imho.

[Symbiant]

lol, oxymoron imho.

Nothing in the ToS states you can not multibox.

[Volcano]

Are you sure that's not a legit multiboxer ? Did they /follow & /assist a leader or act independently ?

You know what, i want to honestly know, with all that is true to my soul at least 1 person that will multibox 5 characters with legit intent. i need you to do that for me. i want to make these legendary people

[TheRogueX]

You know what, i want to honestly know, with all that is true to my soul at least 1 person that will multibox 5 characters with legit intent. i need you to do that for me. i want to make these legendary people

I want to know who CAN multibox 5 characters without using some sort of automation software to help them do so.

[Ravno]

I want to know who CAN multibox 5 characters without using some sort of automation software to help them do so.

You can do it hardware.
With a keyboard bind to multiples computers with kvm or same wireless frenquency, no need to 3thd party.
Or a dual box with a controller and the checkbox option to allow it to work on background.
Or this kind of crazy setup but i don't think it will be really efficient pve wise :

Software boxing is kinda grey area, depend of SE thought. As long as it's just a keyboard driver, most company are ok with a one keypress = one action (even it's it per windows or computer) and do not consider it automation.
Until not long ago, that was the case for all mmo, but few changed their policies with the rise of f2p games.
Anyway, since SE did not make a clear stance about it, that's a hell of a gamble.

But honestly, i don't think they give a f.
I multibox hardware since beta, probably got arround 5K reports (extrapoled from rage wisp), got few forum rage post & youtube video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiXLoiQZESc lol ) and i never got a gm who ask me anything.

[Caligamy]

You know what, i want to honestly know, with all that is true to my soul at least 1 person that will multibox 5 characters with legit intent. i need you to do that for me. i want to make these legendary people

My former linkshell leader from FFXI.. he did switch to XIV when it came out but yeah... he was "legit" and ran one of the most memorable linkshells I have ever been in for 7 years.


WindurstShell

[Volcano]

My former linkshell leader from FFXI.. he did switch to XIV when it came out but yeah... he was "legit" and ran one of the most memorable linkshells I have ever been in for 7 years.


WindurstShell

Unfortunatly FFXI does not count, FFXI is a much slower paced game and people tend to put WHM characters on healing programs (as i even know people who would multibox 3+ characters) it was easier to do it on FFXI, I need to know someone that actually plays THIS one and can do that.

[ariaandkia]

You know what, i want to honestly know, with all that is true to my soul at least 1 person that will multibox 5 characters with legit intent. i need you to do that for me. i want to make these legendary people

If I have the PCs to do it, I can and have played as many as 7 games at one time. Hint: Feet, hands, voice, elbows. Windows has a function that allows you to control it using voice. And if you change your voice based on the PC, you can increase the number of PCs you can control at a time. So 2 hands, 2 feet = 2-4. 2 elbows = 1. 3 different voices = 3 so that is 7 on average. Though I also like to watch anime at the same time, lol. By positioning the speakers for each anime box slightly offset so that the sound arrives at a different timing and volume, you can organize which sound is coming from which box even if they have the same voice actor.

I'm the type that gets worse the fewer things I'm doing at a time though, with the exception of if I'm using a certain technique which forces me to focus on one thing.

Although whether or not I'm a bot depends partially on your definition of a bot. However, by MOST game company standards, I am not a bot since I'm not running a third party program or device. I simply trained myself to work and think differently than most people. However, as a result of my training, there are certain things I'm weaker at than your 'average' person.

And I'm not sure about legit, but I give away most of what I make to newbies because I want to help them progress faster.

Note: I do not multibox FF14. I can barely afford 13 USD a month, much less 91 USD.

As for what I have played at the same time... FF14 (Titan EX ps4), RaiderZ (solo pc), Agarest (Single Player), Terraria (Single Player), PKMN (NA DS), PKMN (JP DS), Fate (PSP), Urusei Yatsura (anime-pc). Of which FF14, RaiderZ and Terraria are reasonably fast paced. RaiderZ being a bit more fast paced than FF14. Though arguably, fighting bosses in Terraria is pretty fast paced as well, lol. However, FF14 and RaiderZ and Terraria are also really really slow paced in another sense. You don't have to think much once you have the patterns down. It is essentially just repeating the same patterns over and over again.

I have, as a result, healed things like Garuda EX in my sleep. Literally in my sleep. One of my friends knows me for healing in my sleep because I learn the patterns for healing and then go to sleep with the patterns recognized. Considering that I can barely see anyways, some people actually say I heal BETTER when asleep since I stop trying to see which saves me space in my processing area (In real life, I move around the city almost purely by sound. I use my eyes mainly to read things and to see lights with no blind assistance-though I sometimes use the position and directional speeds and deceleration/acceleration to tell instead). In other words, unused portion of my brain can then be used for other things. Main thing is that I stop chatting when I sleep though I might talk still (a very select few have heard me sleep talking-probably me using my voice to control the computer). Chatting requires sight in order to read the text.

In theory, I can control as many as 6 without using my voice, but that would be pure PC and would require me to have a space set up specifically for gaming. Actually, depends on the game. Like I've played DDR while doing my homework while watching anime while playing several other games-none of the games being on the pc since at the time, I was using my PCs for watching 4+ animes at a time.

Almost any gamer can do it if they train themselves to from a young age. Just need motivation. My motivation? 1) Time. 2) Easily distracted if I'm only doing two things at a time. 3) Megatokyo-one of the characters used every piece of their body they could, even their mouth? to play a game. I thought, hey, I can do that too. 4) Because it is funny when I see characters in anime, manga, light novels, and visual novels that either match me almost perfectly (like the sister of No Game, No Life) or who can do almost the same thing I can but using a different method (like The World God Only Knows). 5) News stories of how artists learned to paint with their feet or mouth or w/e when they couldn't use their hands - proving it was possible (not that it simply being impossible would've stopped me considering some of the things I've done). 6) I should add this: I am a soloist. I don't trust normal humans. If I can play my entire dungeon party/raid by myself, why not? Then all I have to worry about is myself. Nobody else to blame, nobody else to blame me, it is all on myself.

I mean, heck, time is part of why I learned how to speed read (Though that is also why I ran out of books at my school library and started to play games so much, lol). I wanted to do more things in the little time I had. But now that I'm still alive, why not keep using what I already learned to do?

Fun fact: I don't eat with my feet not because I can't but because I'd probably not want to eat the food if I thought about the implications of doing so.

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Anyways, back towards the original post. Just because they are doing mindless tasks all day doesn't mean that they are bots. You have people like me who have the ability to 'sleepwalk,' people like me with the ability to multitask, groups of people working together, and more.

(Note: For FF14 only (because it is sub and not F2P), I only sleep play when I fall asleep while doing something, I don't do something and then fall asleep while doing something (might not sound different, but one is on purpose and the other is unintended out of exhaustion from staying up for so much time without sleep).)

If sleep playing seems odd. Think of it this way. People sleep walk. And ever started walking somewhere, fell asleep, and then ended up at your destination before you woke up? I have and I'm sure you've experienced something similar even if in a lesser degree. It is where I get most of my sleeping time from. Since it is a 2 hour walk to work and then 2 hours back, why not catch up on sleep? And I did check the news for a while to make sure I wasn't breaking any laws or causing any accidents, lol. I pretty much stay up until I collapse or until I have to walk a good distance, then I just sleep for a bit.

I can't use a bot even if I wanted to for FF14 since I have a PS4 (No bots for PS4 yet, though there might be some for PS3).

Even busy and not responding isn't a clear sign. I mean, some random person runs up to you and goes: "TRADE WITH ME!" while you are grinding/farming. Would you stop? Some random person runs up to you and demands that you talk to them. Would you stop? Busy prevents RMTs from bothering them easily. If they sleep play like I do or multitask, they might not even realize someone is trying to contact them.

Also retainers do help with getting those stacks and considering you can get 4? retainers?

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Personally? People need to stop buying from the RMTs. I mean, if they are still advertising despite everything,then doesn't that mean that someone is buying from them?

And I seriously have to wonder about people who would report someone for being a bot when the person actually responded. I mean, honestly.

As for me, I tend to have a lot of mats and stuff in the market board because... well... Look at my stats, lol. I'm working on my crafting classes now and so excess that I have no need for keeping gets thrown to the market board.

I probably SHOULD sleep soon. I am starting to badly misspell stuff now, lol.

[ToffeeCoffee]

Are you sure that's not a legit multiboxer ? Did they /follow & /assist a leader or act independently ?

I pretty much deleted everything I was going to say. Put it this way, if you open trade with a bot and it tab targets every single mob nearby in an endless cycle without any further reaction then you pretty much know what you're dealing with. Whether it's a 3rd party tool or not, it's full automation without someone physically controlling their keyboard. That is cheating. Please don't dilute the seriousness of the matter at hand by posing the possibility that I'm mistaken. I'm not naive, nor am I hasty to judge. I know a bot when I see one. I've been tracking these 4 for well over a month and all SE has to do is catch and ban them.