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    Drakanous's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Korbenik View Post
    They already KILLED Summoner if they make dark knight a tank I think I might quit the game.
    Well, I hope you give it a shot since it will, in fact, be a tank. Looks like they'll make it good, but that's 100% speculation since they've released little more than the weapon type and very broad description of its playstyle.
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    Vespereaux Vaillantes
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    I too would prefer dark knight to be a dps that comes from gld if they keep with the current system.
    I think they would be interesting if they actually had them use hp management to do high damage as their gimmick. They would have abilities that would do lots of damage but also do damage to the drk (classic soul eater ability) and abilities that would do less damage but would cause the drk to regain health (maybe one that did a self regen and a different one that did a self flat heal). There would also probably have to be some sort of effect that would temporarily disable the drk from being able to be able to be healed by other players for balance purposes, for example a "stance" called shroud of darkness that increases damage done and healing from their own abilities, but restricts healing from others. So those mechanics with Vit stacking to maximize HP to use as your resource to do more damage, abilities with a good mix of off gcd and short cool downs requiring you manage your dps or kill yourself could make for a very interesting and powerful burst damage dps.
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    Last edited by TouchandFeel; 08-30-2014 at 02:48 PM.

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    Called it!

    I'm actually really happy to hear the announcement that Dark Knight will be introduced as a tank. And not with lancer class, which was the most ridiculous thing I'd seen on reddit. Well, it's not with any class, if you wanna get technical. Thanks for everyone's contribution to the thread, I understand how most of you felt in wanting DRK as a dps which would have also made sense. It does look like they're going in the right direction so far, though. I'm very excited to see it in action in 3.0
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    IF dark knight gets introduced anytime in the near future it will be a tank (in my opinion), because this game already has 2 melee DPS and a 3rd on the way. For this reason I don't think we will be seeing DRK soon, because it ought to fall into the DPS role.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Warrlordd View Post
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    While this may be true, I have a feeling that SE will probably release 2 dps jobs for every healer and tank job released just based on the class/job and party setup they have. So based on this I feel that they will either release one more dps before the expansion or one of each role with the expansion.
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    Reynhart Kristensen
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    Quote Originally Posted by TouchandFeel View Post
    While this may be true, I have a feeling that SE will probably release 2 dps jobs for every healer and tank job released just based on the class/job and party setup they have. So based on this I feel that they will either release one more dps before the expansion or one of each role with the expansion.
    The usual party setup means we need as many DPS as tanks and healers combined.
    Now, we have 2 tanks, 2 healers...and 5 (Soon 6) DPS. To keep the balance we need more tanks and/or healers.

    And Yoshida confirmed that we'll see no new job between 2.4 and the expansion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    The usual party setup means we need as many DPS as tanks and healers combined.
    Now, we have 2 tanks, 2 healers...and 5 (Soon 6) DPS. To keep the balance we need more tanks and/or healers.

    And Yoshida confirmed that we'll see no new job between 2.4 and the expansion.
    Based on what Yoshida has said, we should be getting a new tank and healer with the expansion which would put it at 3 tanks / 3 healers / 6 dps, which is equal.

    So, 2.4 (2 tank/2 heal/ 6 dps), 3.0 (3 tank/ 3 heal/ 7 dps), 3.5 (3 tank/ 3 heal/ 8 dps), 4.0 (4 tank/ 4 heal/ 9 dps), etc. was the approximate release pattern that I was guessing at based on the class release pattern from 2.0 to 3.0, assuming they keep the one lead on number of dps classes that they currently have.
    Otherwise it will most likely be something along the lines of 2.4 (2 tank/2 heal/ 6 dps), 3.0 (3 tank/ 3 heal/ 6 dps), 3.5 (3 tank/ 3 heal/ 7 dps), 4.0 (4 tank/ 4 heal/ 8 dps), etc.
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    Last edited by TouchandFeel; 09-01-2014 at 04:11 PM.

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    Killabye Strife
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    why not a buster sword tank who could add materia specific to his role. then say hes mt he could have maybe a vitality materia but it acts differently. say it gives 3 vit, instead if its attached to the sword it gives 3 vit minus on attacks. or they could just make a materia for it that could gives hims specific defensive spells. then if he wanted to be dps he could have a different sword that has spell materias so he could attack. in 7 they had the enemy skill materia too, they could make something like that where he could add buffs or spells they know to a materia then add it to the sword so it would make a whole nother path hed have to take to be good
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    Novus is enough to make the prices skyrocket, we can't have a job where materia are mandatory.
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    Hecky Insane
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    DRK/NIN with haste cap was by far the most effective tank for Fafnir/Nidhogg atleast, aswell as King Vinegarroon, Dark Ixion (when he came) ect ect ect, but it requierd some skill
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