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  1. #21
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    Tupsi's Avatar
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    Odsarzol Que
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    Balmung
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Kayo View Post
    Seriously, is it that hard to just remove gear from the draw pool if the freakin class isnt present at the time?
    It's not hard, it's unnecessary to do this since it's just an extra set of calculations that has to be sent to/from the server. Then again, the itemization in this game is so basic it truly doesn't matter in the end, since for all the trouble of ST you could just do hunts where you don't have to deal with RNG since you can just unweather your sol gear in the long run.

    All in all, this is why they should have taken the 'Dynamis' route from XI, where certain gear can drop from trash mobs and bosses were guaranteed to drop x pieces, that way you widen the pool and chance to obtain. And before anyone says it, no one ever dropped from dynamis after getting what they wanted because there's still reasons to do full runs. Though this game does seem to have more of a problem with people not caring for who they run with.
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  2. #22
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    Felis's Avatar
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    Skadi Felis
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    Ragnarok
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    Pugilist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by RiceisNice View Post
    Some of the equips are consolidated based on roles requiring the same stats, such as healers, casters and tank (Healing, Casting and Fending pieces), but not the case between DRG and MNK (Maiming and Striking Pieces) and BRD being the only one utilizing dexterity (Aiming). That inconsistency is something I never really understood since afaik MNK and DRG desire the same stats more or less... And I'm further confused by the fact they have jewelries appropriate for both classes (Slaying).
    Dragoons get more def than Monks. On accessories is no def, so it is ok.
    This is also the reason why Dragoon and Monk have separate ST gear even if the model of both are the same. So the DRG set can have more def than the MNK set.
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    Last edited by Felis; 08-26-2014 at 11:48 PM.

  3. #23
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    Ashkendor Zahirr
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    Balmung
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    Paladin Lv 90
    From the run I just did on MNK:





    Nope, no shortage of tank gear here.
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  4. #24
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    Alistaire's Avatar
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    Your Character
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    Sargatanas
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    Blue Mage Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Endemerrin View Post
    The entire playerbase suffers pretty heavily from this fallacy.
    Fixed that for ya. For every post like this there's 99.4% of the rest of the playerbase that sees the normal amount of tank drops (or more). People post more to complain than to praise; it's human nature. And nobody's going to post that they see tank drops as often as other drops, that doesn't mean it doesn't happen, just means it makes for boring posts.
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  5. #25
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    Sammich's Avatar
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    Silas Silvertongue
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    Tonberry
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    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Endemerrin View Post
    Every week is literally the same loot over and over again. We've gotten probably four or five tank boots, three or four pairs of tank gloves, double of the rest of the tank gear (which I won't complain about, as I play Warrior in coil despite maining Monk) and double or triple of every bard piece. Only a small handful of caster and healer gear split between four people.

    But every week it's just more tank and bard gear, and nothing else. We've dubbed it the binding coil of disappointment, because every week that's all it is.
    I don't want to see fending gear ever again Also, no more belts of aiming, please.
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  6. #26
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    Melfina Amastacia
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    Excalibur
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    Lancer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Tupsi View Post
    RNG is RNG. I see nothing but tank drops some runs. You do realize it has to randomly shift through quite a few sets along with ending items like UAT, Minion, Throne Gem and Oil of Time, right? They can't fix what isn't broken - Unless they determine drops, e.g creating at least 20 more bosses, there's no way to "fix" what isn't broken.
    Uh, mostly no. Gem and Minion are from a separate chest altogether, Oil and Tomestone are in addition to whatever gear piece drops from Xande, they don't replace it.
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  7. #27
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    Souljacker's Avatar
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    Last Hero
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    Coeurl
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    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    Last night a tank in our FC ran ST with a group of members 9 times before he logged off in frustration. I've run probably a total of 30 times since it released and can't recall seeing a lot of tank stuff drop, but whm\drg\brd seems to drop a lot.

    RNG is RNG is RNG, but I think SE's idea of RNG and the rest of the world's don't always match up.
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  8. #28
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    Maero's Avatar
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    I'shtola Maqa
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    Leviathan
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    Dancer Lv 90
    I agree as well, St has mainly been drg, monk and Bard gear for the most part. Last night a tank chest dropped but it seems very rare indeed.
    CT was like this as well when it was first introduced, always and absolutely always was it Monk gear that would drop.
    It had taken me no lie around 80 runs just to get the crimson hat for blm, chest was roughly the same as well.
    Throne gem i seen only twice, minion is fairly frequent, but figure i will probably only get it once all of Leviathan server already have theirs, so is the rng like so thus far in this game for me.
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  9. #29
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    Tupsi's Avatar
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    Odsarzol Que
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by ispano View Post
    Uh, mostly no. Gem and Minion are from a separate chest altogether, Oil and Tomestone are in addition to whatever gear piece drops from Xande, they don't replace it.
    I didn't say they replaced it - I was listing all drops in the zone because all chests will drop randomized items or not at all in case of the optional items.
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  10. #30
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    Leash's Avatar
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    Leash Sakurai
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    Hyperion
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    Dragoon Lv 56
    Out of all the times I’ve ran ST, I’ve only seen the caster helm drop at the very end. I have never seen any body piece drop on my runs.

    Also, I ran Brayfox Hard, Stone Vidgil Hard, Halatali Hard, The Lost City of Amdapor and Hullbreaker Isle last night and every single chest at the last boss dropped Hardened Sap. Thats f***ed up.
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