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  1. #41
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    Cynfael's Avatar
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    Sacrilege Moonshadow
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Asheilin View Post
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    WHM is pretty snooze-worthy at low levels; a lot of babysitting HP bars when your party is undergeared or underskilled. At higher levels it's much more fun, and you contribute more to party DPS as appropriate without worrying about someone dying as you wait to turn off Cleric Stance.

    WHM is generally the easier job IMO, especially as you move into end-game content. No stacks to manage, no pet, no real expectation to DPS (not even Holy, since end-game fights have no focus on AoE and can't afford for the WHM to bleed their MP out). The main challenge I see with some WHMs is that they don't precast or anticipate damage, and they are too conservative with heals. If a WHM has an issue, it's usually one or both of those.
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  2. #42
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cynfael View Post
    WHM is pretty snooze-worthy at low levels; a lot of babysitting HP bars when your party is undergeared or underskilled. At higher levels it's much more fun, and you contribute more to party DPS as appropriate without worrying about someone dying as you wait to turn off Cleric Stance.

    WHM is generally the easier job IMO, especially as you move into end-game content. No stacks to manage, no pet, no real expectation to DPS (not even Holy, since end-game fights have no focus on AoE and can't afford for the WHM to bleed their MP out). The main challenge I see with some WHMs is that they don't precast or anticipate damage, and they are too conservative with heals. If a WHM has an issue, it's usually one or both of those.
    You basically just described a crappy WHM lol I DPS endgame you just have to know when you can and can't do it. Looks like we disagree pretty heavily on this cuz having a pet (maybe it's cuz I'm smn main) is what makes the job so easy for me.

    Also, Aetherflow makes it way easier on you, cuz it gives you so much MP back per minute, but also allows you to insta-cure for emergencies. If WHM can get by with Benediction, there's no reason a SCH should have issues with Lustrates. If you're a player that struggles controlling pets, I can see why SCH may appear to be the more challenging job, but outside of heavy AoE damage done to your party, SCH is a breeze to play imo.

    However, both WHM and SCH are the hardest jobs to play currently so we ight lol
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    Last edited by Rydia13; 09-16-2014 at 01:34 AM.

  3. #43
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    gehrtalert's Avatar
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    Bluehaired Bigdude
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    Coeurl
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    White Mage Lv 60
    I haven't leveled to a scholar yet but I love healing as WHM. It's seems like more of a healer role where a scholar seems more of a defensive role. Heals versus shields. I have friends who have an opposite opinion tho.
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  4. #44
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    Lemuria Glitterhands
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    Ragnarok
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    Conjurer Lv 100
    For me, it's White Mage all the way. Scholar feels like a very lazy job in comparison, with the fairy basically taking over 50% of the healing duty.

    I much prefer to take a more active role when it comes to healing the party, and having the stronger party buffs is the icing on the cake. It's also nice not having to worry about your fairy being out of range because it's too stupid to move in for heals, or needing to reposition it during certain boss phases. I also like having raw power behind my heals.

    Don't misunderstand me, I know how strong Adloquium can be with a good critical, but the problem with it is that the better half of that skill is a 30-second buff, which means it can wear off non-tanks during play. That means those people require additional cures to get them back up to strength.

    I still play Scholar from time to time, mostly when I want something different. But WHM is my first and one true healing class
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  5. #45
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    Sasoriza's Avatar
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    Sasoriza Tekisasu
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    Hyperion
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    I prefer Scholar. It seems a bit easier to manage MP and healing with my Fairy as well.
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  6. #46
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    NorthernLadMSP's Avatar
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    Character
    Adore Mi
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    Jenova
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 90
    I've played both for a long time now. When you are first learning them, scholar can seem harder to play and white mage easier. However, once you have learned both jobs, and gotten in to higher level instances, white mage is definitely the harder of the two to be good at. Main reasons being they have a lot more trouble with monster aggro than scholars do, so it's a skill to learn how to control that aggro. They also have a tougher time with MP management and having a much slower emergency heal. At least that's my opinion.
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  7. #47
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    Lei Lani
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    Hyperion
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    White Mage Lv 60
    I started out WHM main since 1.0 but then around 2.2 a friend jokingly suggest I go scholar main which I ended up doing. I love both but for different reasons. On WHM I feel like a powerhouse pulling off massive heals. On scholar I feel like a sneaky ninja trying to prevent the WHM I am healing with from feeling like a powerhouse. This is prob inanely why I have stayed with scholar because I know how it feels to play WHM with an unequal healing partner. As a scholar I feel like it's my job to make my WHM partners job as easy as possible (while they are still playing equal to me). Perhaps one of my favourite parts of healing is finding and keeping a healing partner you are cohesive with to the point you feel like you cannot fail.

    On a side note, I feel it is very important as a healer to play both roles as it allows you to understand exactly what they are capable of. I feel the same way about healer mains learning the tank role.
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    Last edited by Lani; 09-16-2014 at 05:20 AM.

  8. #48
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    Cynfael's Avatar
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    Sacrilege Moonshadow
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Rydia13 View Post
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    I describe bad WHMs because many if them are exactly that :P. Bad SCHs are slightly less obvious since the fairy will pick up some of their slack, and Lustrate will allow them to slop/panic heal. Good SCHs, however, do have a greater expectation to help with party DPS since their MP is nearly bottomless and their mechanics allow them to heal effectively through Cleric Stance if they misjudge their timing or a party member derps.

    Basically I find WHM to be a little less flexible and not as capable of multitasking; I suppose that's their trade off for having easy, huge AoE heals and an AoE nuke/stun combo.
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    Last edited by Cynfael; 09-16-2014 at 05:28 AM.

  9. #49
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    Numenor1379's Avatar
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    Lucius Magnus
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    Famfrit
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    WHM here, though I do have both to 50. I find given my main being a BLM that I am more suited to the WHM style. That, and while it isn't Flare, Holy is a pretty good substitute. XD
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  10. #50
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    Blue Plenilune
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    Diabolos
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    Blue Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Lemuria View Post
    For me, it's White Mage all the way. Scholar feels like a very lazy job in comparison, with the fairy basically taking over 50% of the healing duty.
    It's only lazy for people who want to play it lazy. If a Scholar were to fully utilize all the tools available to them the job can be incredibly active. Their excellent ability to multitask is what keeps me on my toes.
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