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    Squa11_Leonhart's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chopski View Post
    Hmmm, To go from Regal Purple to Rolanberry Red the calculator says you should feed it: 1 × Pears, 1 × Berries, 2 × Apples, 2 × Berries, 4 × Apples, 4 × Pears. Maybe I need to revise the wording as it looks like you have just taken what it says from the red value, when you need to do them all.
    I recommend the revision, as That is how i would have taken it myself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chopski View Post
    Hmmm, To go from Regal Purple to Rolanberry Red the calculator says you should feed it: 1 × Pears, 1 × Berries, 2 × Apples, 2 × Berries, 4 × Apples, 4 × Pears. Maybe I need to revise the wording as it looks like you have just taken what it says from the red value, when you need to do them all.
    yeah. . . I misunderstood ^.^
    I got back to Royal Blue after that feeding, so next feed I just fed everything it told me to feed it from Royal Blue to get to Soot Black, no more skipping! and that was 1 apple, 1 berry, 7 apples and 7 pears. . . it gave me the color change message after every single food item. . . and after waiting 6 hours. . . it was back at Regal Purple. . . help? T-T
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    A Moon on the water, a wind in the trees, all and none belong to me.
    And so I must wander, down a road e'er long, over mountains, through valleys, singing these bard songs.

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    At Royal Blue your Red and Green were almost there, you just needed to change Blue really. But it said to change blue and green on the calc, so I'll see about putting some minimum requirements on there. But now your red has shot up when it shouldn't have moved much at all and your green hasn't moved when it should have gone down a bit...

    The calc should have at least pushed you in the right direction and has been working well for me and some others, so I'm confused to be honest...

    Personally, I would keep trying. I've just gone from Storm Blue > Kobold Brown > Soot Black each time using the values from the calc. So it's about right, just not perfect. I was going to use my own judgement on the next feed if I didn't get soot black, which is what I would suggest to anyone when they're close to what they want.

    Maybe someone on here has a better recipe they can suggest. As the calculator at present is still very basic and needs refining to make feeds more efficient/accurate.

    Don't give up!
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    Last edited by Chopski; 09-04-2014 at 09:19 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kusari-chan View Post
    yeah. . . I misunderstood ^.^
    I got back to Royal Blue after that feeding, so next feed I just fed everything it told me to feed it from Royal Blue to get to Soot Black, no more skipping! and that was 1 apple, 1 berry, 7 apples and 7 pears. . . it gave me the color change message after every single food item. . . and after waiting 6 hours. . . it was back at Regal Purple. . . help? T-T
    From purple I followed the calculator instructions to get to Soot Black: 6 pears, 6 berries, 1 apple, 1 berry, 4 apples and 4 pears. . . . and drum roll. . . . Wine Red! It's not Soot Black. . . but it is still nice to see another color other than purple or blue. . . that being said, now I want to see midnight blue, and the calculator recommends 4 plums and 4 berries. Gonna give it a shot, because even though I know what my ultimate goal is, I want to see a variety of colors.

    So, 4 plums and 4 berries, I'll try to get to midnight ^.^
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    A Moon on the water, a wind in the trees, all and none belong to me.
    And so I must wander, down a road e'er long, over mountains, through valleys, singing these bard songs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chopski View Post
    Anyway I built a calculator, which uses the advice here and was much easier and less complicated than what I was trying to do...

    http://www.ffxivchocobo.com

    Feedback greatly appreciated.
    Just a side note, I went ballistic on the 2500+ post thread because the posters that made recommendations using the original calculator didn't do this, and I am seeing the same possible mistake(?) being made here. So a question here that may help improve or fine tune your calculator (I hope).

    Just playing around, so I put in the request from one of the posts:

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    Hunter Green » Dalamud Red
    RGB(34, 68, 38) » RGB(113, 22, 22)

    Difference: Red: 79, Green: -46, Blue: -16

    Feed ALL of the below to change to your desired colour:

    Red: 8 × Valfruit, 8 × Pineapples
    Green: 5 × Apples, 5 × Berries
    Blue: 2 × Apples, 2 × Pears
    ------------------------------

    Now, we all know that:
    Apple + plums = 0,0,0
    Pear + valfruit = 0,0,0
    Berry + pineapples = 0,0,0
    So why recommend 8 valfruit, then 2 pear? Same with 8 pineapples, then 5 berries, when 6x valfruit, 3x pineapple, 7x apple yields the same result.

    Please discuss ...
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    Last edited by AttacKat; 09-04-2014 at 11:01 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AttacKat View Post
    Just a side note, I went ballistic on the 2500+ post thread because the posters that made recommendations using the original calculator didn't do this, and I am seeing the same possible mistake(?) being made here. So a question here that may help improve or fine tune your calculator (I hope).
    Yes, you're right. I'm sure I found a flaw in doing that when I originally built it. But I just used your example and achieved the same result. Might take me a while to sort it as it is doing the R,G & B calculations separately at the moment. But I will update accordingly, thank you.

    Edit: Have updated so recommended feeds should not be so wasteful now.
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    Last edited by Chopski; 09-05-2014 at 12:49 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chopski View Post
    I went to loads of effort over the last week or so trying to map out all of the relationships, thinking there was a direct connection between each colour. Then I read this thread...

    Anyway I built a calculator, which uses the advice here and was much easier and less complicated than what I was trying to do...

    http://www.ffxivchocobo.com
    I followed the instructions on your site from Regal Purple to Soot Black and I ended on Ink Blue. After that I used your site again from Ink Blue to Soot Black and now I'm waiting for the result. Even if not 100% accurate it took me closer to my goal as ever, so it's good. Thank you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enma View Post
    I followed the instructions on your site from Regal Purple to Soot Black and I ended on Ink Blue. After that I used your site again from Ink Blue to Soot Black and now I'm waiting for the result. Even if not 100% accurate it took me closer to my goal as ever, so it's good. Thank you.
    Awesome, good luck! Got my fingers crossed, let's hope the RNG gods are kind to you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chopski View Post
    I went to loads of effort over the last week or so trying to map out all of the relationships, thinking there was a direct connection between each colour. Then I read this thread...

    Anyway I built a calculator, which uses the advice here and was much easier and less complicated than what I was trying to do...

    http://www.ffxivchocobo.com

    Feedback greatly appreciated.
    I've been on vacation but I updated the "Resources" section to list your new calculator. Thanks for sharing!



    Quote Originally Posted by AttacKat View Post
    Just a side note, I went ballistic on the 2500+ post thread because the posters that made recommendations using the original calculator didn't do this, and I am seeing the same possible mistake(?) being made here.
    I would just like to point out that many users giving out recommendations early on in the Chocobo Dye thread weren't even using the calculator you got so irritated about. We were doing math manually (napkin math) to try to assist as best we could with the info we had for fruit recommendations; which had many successful turnouts.

    I personally have not used any of the calculators so I can't attest to if they work properly or not but I'm trying to keep the resources section updated so that other players can choose a method to try. Chopski's seems to have a decent success rate.

    I did see the thread you started regarding micro feeding. I'll keep my eyes on the comments in your thread and might end up adding a link to it in "Resources" section as well. Thanks for contributing. For Science!
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    Last edited by Syrehn; 09-08-2014 at 03:56 AM.

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    I want a Cactaur Green, or a Hunter Green chocobo. Does that mean I can just keep feeding him mamook pears until he turns one of those colors?
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