Quote Originally Posted by hamsteak View Post
it should definitely be locked behind the story quests, it makes zero sense to be able to become a rogue/ninja before you even meet yugiri and the rest of the doman emigrants
Yugiri has nothing to do with being a Rogue. Rogue is Thancred's thing, and he mentioned a secret guild in Limsa Lominsa where this style of fighting is taught. This can be open to players at anypoint in the storyline without causing severe lore issues (just little stuff, like how surprised folks are by Thancred's fighting style when the player has been using that style openly all along).

While I don't recall Yugiri's dialogue clearly, I remember it more that she offers to teach her style of fighting in order to repay the Scions and the Mor Dhonans for their kindness. She offers to teach in general - she doesn't specifically offer to teach the player character, but rather anyone who wishes to learn (which may include the player character). Yugiri is also very likely not the only Ninja in existance. Therefore, if we do learn ninjutsu, it will not necessarily be from Yugiri.

If we accept that Yugiri will not necessarily be the Job NPC for Ninja (she's teaching ninjutsu, but she's not the one who teaches YOU ninjutsu), that opens the gates wide for SE to add any of a number of lore-safe alternatives. Perhaps the player, a level 30+ Rogue, will run into a Doman ninja who is traveling away from home. Impressed and intrigued by the player's fighting style, this wandering ninja offers to teach the player his or her art.

Even if I'm misremembering something, and it WAS stated that all ninja but Yugiri were wiped out, there are plenty of ways around it - our instructor could be a rogue ninja long thought dead by his or her people who fled his or her homeland for whatever reason.

To sum up, access to both NIN and ROG can exist comfortably without upsetting lore.