Rogue/Ninja Starting Class?

[Dhex]

....some = all of the current main storyline. lol

Well... same issue come the day we enter Ishgard.

Can a new character just waltz in? Or do they need to be locked out to maintain the main storyline? What about 2.4 and the storyline surrounding Shiva?

Can you enter second Coil without beating first Coil?

Retcon.. retcon retcon! Not saying they can't retcon all those things, but those things will require a retcon.





Which would be messy.

[Giantbane]

You couldn't start as a Rogue.

Jobs are unlocked at level 30. You can't complete the 2.0/2.1/2.2/2.3 storylines until you're lv50. You could be a Ninja before Yugiri and the Doman people exist in that (your) universe yet... before the conflicts in Ul'dah are explained and so on - so unless they somehow retcon the entire storyline...

It'd be hella messy.

Or they could just retcon the whole thing because ... who cares?

[Amiantos]

The quest to unlock rogue could be a lol 15 or so quest since by then even if you start else where new players can get it. Kinda like new advanced jobs from ToAUin Xi. Only needed to be the min 30 to get them. Just needed access to that area.

[Kos_Mos]

My thoughts are since Rogues existed before, they could have it as a starting class THEN have one of the pre-req quests to unlock Ninja being you need to be passed a certain point in Main Story to fit with the lore. Technically you don't have to have a job to finish main story. It's A LOT better if you do, but it's not necessary. It means that people starting out on it will have a little more work but it does make sense as well.

[Kos_Mos]

In 3.0 however, the way our story goes it will be more interesting. Start as a Doma, oh look the Domas just moved here, lol. For it to make sense they would have to make anyone who started post 3.0 to begin where 2.0 left off. Now that brings other questions, how will they get their Magitek mount? Imperial armor? Salute emote? It's a debate that can continue on for a long time. The lore team has their work cut out for them imo, will be interesting how they decide to put the pieces together. From a players standpoint, if I start after 3.0 then found out there was another race that I had to save/buy a Fantasia Potion to play I'd be upset. From the lore standpoint if they start at 2.0 story it makes sense. I'm really wondering how it will work.

[Karnyboy]

Why is this thread still going? I'm pretty sure that the majority of us answered this a page or two ago.

[EdwinLi]

Why is this thread still going? I'm pretty sure that the majority of us answered this a page or two ago.

I don't know but it is a bit entertaining seeing this argument progress since there is only 1 ways this can end being 1 side is right and 1 side is wrong.

Once we learn how SE will officially handle adding Rogue/Ninja in 2.4 there will be imaginary bloody everywhere no matter who is right or wrong

I'm just getting my chair ready and say now...

[Gilraen]

The problem with citing the story as a reason to lock new people out of rogue as a starting class is that never is your class referenced in any of the story dialogue. Sure, Thancred and Yugiri going rogue-school in Sapsha(sp?) will be a 'shock' when rogue players get to that part. And learning that their Job wasn't ready story-wise till 2.4 will be a giggle. But the only thing that the story looks at you for is what quests you've completed in the process, not your class. The rogue/Ninja story also plays such a miniscule part in Yugiri's storyline that's so very clearly about Garlean refugees, Ascians and Leviathan. You people who want to lock basic content behind 50 levels of quests and cutscenes really need to pull that stick from twixt your cheeks, you really do.

[silentwindfr]

*sighs* that the trouble Gilraen, it's not basic content, it's a new content. it's not that it wasn't ready and that why they bring it to the 2.4.... create a class/jobs take a lot of time, because of the balance, make sure the class have unique mechanic and such.

no one is lock out of the rogue, since whatever you do, you will have to do the story quest. all this talk are pointless, because whatever you say, it don't change the fact that it's a new content added after the release. it's not a starting class, it's a new add to the game. do people complain because they need to do the story for get acces to mog/levi/ramuh? no. that the same. it's not different than the glamour that recquire to be level 50 for be unlocked. exept here, you will need to do the story line quest for get acces to the class.

one more time, is not basic content, it's advanced content, in the sense that it was not there at the base, it's a whole new content added to the game, that you that are making a fuss for nothing. saying it's unfair for the new player... when it's not different than the recquirement to the glamour or dyeing or tribes quest or hunt or personal housing! they are content that reward you for advance in the story. you are the one that want to simply take out this progression for a reason as ridiculous than saying it will lock out player, when no one is lock out...

[SDaemon]

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advanced content? that is worth several giggles. sorry but your reasoning to lock out new players from playing rog and nin because you feel they should trudge through 50 levels and story content, for what exactly? what compeling reason would there be to do that? the story isn't changing regardless of them playing through the game as rog or nin, zippo nadda, not one bit. so all the players that have been here will be running around with level 1 rogues, but a new player doing it suddenly ruins your immersion? going off that logic rogues and ninjas should be banned from doing any content released before 2.4. Its only logical right?, story wise they didn't exist then.